Time to ban festivals

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  1. tolly_67

    tolly_67 Well-Known Member

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    20 in hospital...many critical.
    Not a muslim or a burqua in sight.
    All self inflicted.
     
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    Time to ban all parades.





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  3. sammysilver

    sammysilver Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    50 years ago, I was one of them.
     
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    BuggedOut Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Time to legalise drugs so that they can be cleaned up, dosages corrected and regulated to prevent overdoses like these. Also kill off the black market and stop putting money into criminal organisations, put it into tax coffers instead.

    Prohibition has never worked. People will always experiment with drugs, legal or not, but illegal drugs are the most dangerous.
     
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    l***g Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Just ban overdosing, that'll stop people doing it
     
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    Big A.D. Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-...stival-more-than-20-overdose-hospital/8283828
    What he actually meant:

     
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    Ipv6Ready Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I'm all for legalising drugs and allowing supermarkets selling it.
    Than treat it as a crime much like alcohol.

    If priced correctly should be a money earner and technically a safer drug.

    It should lower the criminals enterprise though likely they will move into other areas.
    But we should be congnizant that legalising drugs won't save anyone becomeing addicted or save many lifes

    Just like people addicted on prescription drugs, addicts are addicts, they will destroy their life and those around them.

    Also how is a safe drug test going to work, how many of dead kids would have given up a pill to be tested.
    Was only one pill taken by all the victims, did some take two, three or more?
    Will the drug test say ok up to two than you die if you weigh less than 60kg up to 3 if 60 plus?

    If one pill killed each of the twenty victims where are the hundreds or even thousands of death, illegal drugs are not made in batches if twenty.
    Also even the dealers don't want their customers dieing and consider that many if the low level dealers are users themself, so if one pill could kill the dealer would have died before it was sold.

    Do people know how much these pills cost?
     
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    Big A.D. Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    You only have to scratch a small amount off the side of the pill to be able to run a chemical analysis of it.

    The amount lost to the test isn't enough to have any meaningful difference on how high (or how dead) you're going to get if you take it.
     
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    Roswell Crash Survivor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Why isn't this country's public health care system funding drug rehabilitation ('rehab') for addicts who are willing to quit?

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-09-12/the-high-price-parents-pay-to-get-their-kids-off-ice/7833434

    http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...e/news-story/c27f2ea5c846c3871f10dab7f8736349

    Amphetamine addiction is a law and order problem, a health care crisis and a burden on economic productivity.

    Every dollar spent on freeing these people of their addiction will create net savings in policing/court cases/prison spending. Not to mention ongoing healthcare spending.
     
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    bordsilver Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Mid-last century we decided that we would rather lock them up in taxpayer funded r*pe rooms so that the murderers and thieves have someone to do. Lucrative business model for psychotherapists too. The recent privatisation push to privately funded r*pe room hit a snag since the monasteries started dying off as an option.
     
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    Unless you are testing for trace amounts, no you are likely to need more than 1 tablet.

    a tiny amount won't be enough for calculation to see if it is lethal, even if the test is for known poison.

    If testing for trace amount of chemical, I agree with you, the problem with that is what if it test positive for rat poison but it would requires 5 tablets to thin your blood enough to make you sick or 50 tablets to kill you outright.

    Is that pill safe or no?

    Bearing in mind rat poison would be mixed in when cutting the drug into a pill, therefore you could one pill with minimal and another 1000 times more rat poison in it as a clump.

    So if the testing say dangerous, but a kid takes it away and is fine do you think his friends will not take t.
     
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    That will cost too much and is usually ineffective as most go straight back on drugs. Instead lock them up in tents in the middle of Australia so it is cheap.

    I have little compassion for drug users, especially ice users because they are violent nutcases. One day on road I accidentally cut off an ice addict who jumped out of his car and gave me a growling at traffic lights. That's how I knew he was on ice because of his diluted pupils and way he acted.
     
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    As nirvana said 'oh well, whatever, nevermind'
     
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    Can you enlighten me. How a trace amount detected vs lethal dose can be separated by testing scratch of a tablet?
     
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    l***g Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Lol quoted me while I was thinking better of it!
     
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    One doesn't need an entire pill to test to determine what it is.
     
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    100% correct but totally wrong in your assumption.
    What it can't tell you is if it contains 1mg of LSD and 100mg of rat poison or 1mg and 10mg of rat poison.

    And is 100mg of rat posion taken by 100kg person or 40kg person have the same result.

    Is it safe or not safe.

    What if the 100kg person had one, and told all his friends "test is crap" I'm fine.... so another person 40kg take three thought out the festival.
    Does 120mg of blood thinner do to a 40kg person?

    If deemed Unsafe how many people will heed the drug test again.
     
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    My iguana uses pills occasionally and wanted me to tell you that most people won't use more than 3 pills on a night out. 50 would probably kill anyone even if there wasn't any poisons etc, just due to the effect on your heart.

    People who buy regularly in larger amounts tend to test them, and there are sites like pill report where people can look for feedback on different batches. If testing was available at festivals etc, I guarantee you most people would use it, and rather than every person having to sacrifice one to test or whatever, dealers would probably be able to test them and show people the results.

    My iguana also wanted to mention that he is usually worried more about his pills having meth in them (instead of mdma) rather than rat poison haha.
     
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    ^^ 50mg is not 50 pills
    Mg is milligrams.

    Meth usually wouldn't kill anyone :)
     
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    You said 50 tablets?

    Meth doesn't give you the good feels haha.
     

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