The story of your enslavement.

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  1. anonmiss

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    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A[/youtube]

    He offers no solution other than to realise how messed up humans treat each other.
     
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    But it is a good eye opening video for people who haven't thought about these things before.
     
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    He does offer solutions though, the guy has 100's of videos online. Just none of them are quick fix. Which is to be expected, since we've spent a lot of time getting ourselves into this mess.
     
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    Isn't it the point though? Not living in somebody else's "solution" that is.
     
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    The clip is the story of your enslavment, it has taken many hundreds of years and many minds to enslave you.
    You have entered this culture of enslavement that has exisited before your birth. To be free from it will take more than watching one clip, however once you recognise you are enslaved then you are free to find the tools that you may pass on to the next generation, thus creating a generation born unenslaved.
    'there is no spoon' ;)
     
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    I've mentioned this a few times on SS actually.

    The concept of getting cows to attack other cows (like the speculators to attack non-speculators) and create a social & economic buffer between the base rung and the elite.

    It's very real & very obvious, but alas, mostly falls on deaf ears.

    SS has plenty of very willing cows who will attack other cows for not acting like the elite.

    *shrugs*
     
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    The state is horizontal. It has to be. There is not enough force, nor will there ever be to control everyone.

    You have to convince people that they need you. That's why the state is always making people feel insecure, so it can come in and be their saviour and they will attack anyone who tries to take their saviour away.

    It's why they take as much money as they can get away with, it's why they hand out so much welfare. And it's why there's always fear-mongering of some type going on.

    All classical methods of control. Cult leaders do the same thing. Make the members feel inadequate and sell them scare stories, while taking much of their income and giving them a few handouts in return. Plus, they have songs and chants to say how great the cult is. The members of the cult attack anyone who gets out of line and the leaders only come in and use physical force occasionally to make an example.
     
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    plus carbon tax or else!!
     
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    Each to their own but I get alarm bells in regards to this guy.
     
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    so i leave a few smilies off .... shoulda put it in JOTD ...
     
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    Play the ball not the man, your 'bells' will have a lot more credibility when you do. (And I'm interested to know exactly what bells you are hearing.)
     
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    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2MJTYxAakI[/youtube]
     
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    alternatives please!
     
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    Trusting my intuition has served me well so I'll continue doing it.

    Yes I accept I may be wrong about him but I don't think I am.

    Each to their own.
     
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    LoL not talking about you!! :) ... I was referring to Stefan Molyneux.
     
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    Personally I don't know him from a bar of soap so he could have toddlers locked up in his cellar of death and torture for all I know. But that applies to nearly everybody (including people you think you know).

    All I (and you) have to go on is the content and I find most of his content thought provoking even if not my preferred area of interest. If nothing else I think his content (like many others including Dawkins, Mises, Rothbard, Schiff, Stephenson etc) provides a good vaccination against many of the more pernicious, evil mind viruses that are out there.
     
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    For those that "know" me, the start of the video reminded me massively of the philosophy of the driving forces of the death metal and black metal artists (before the music was copied by the imitators and the philosophy distorted or dropped altogether). Among a few other genres, metal and punk was where the major counter-culture musicians who followed and built on the philosophies espoused by the likes of Roger Waters and the Beatles on drugs period as the hippes aged and drifted into commercialism and self-hatred for losing sight of their basic goals. The death metal masters incorporated most of the elements Molyneaux talks about near the start but, in my opinion, the true Black Metal artists are the ones who went the furthest and - to me - epitomise the whole philosophy and essentially they are the pinnacle of the entire Metal movement. (But as with all the artists that have gone before, even the BM genre is being attacked by the copy-cats with no clue and the descendants are moving to create other genres (like electronic, ambient and pagan) to express their ideals. Hence, the Metal genre is at risk of being hollowed out and dying as artistically their isn't much further progress that can be made.)

    Actually, I'm rambling but I can't really be stuffed trying to make this into a nice detailed post of the various musical philosophies and motivations. If you have an affinity for many of the extreme genres (not just metal) then you'll probably understand that these are the guys who already understand and rebel against their enslavement even if they don't properly know why. Guys like Molyneaux add the depth (while people like Dawkins add the science).
     
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    The point is its not about HIM. Look past the man and look at the philosophy. Attack the logic of the arguments he presents, not the big bald chatty forhead that he is. He is nothing in the conversation discover the moral arguments and find the flaws in them. If you can ;)
     
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    Animal abuse, not needed in the video.

    No matter how valid the argument may be, seeing that just makes me angry.
     

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