The Orange Godzilla wins.

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  1. JohnnyBravo300

    JohnnyBravo300 Well-Known Member

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    Yep our politics are stupid. No doubt about that and continues to get worse every election.
    And the swamp is trickling down into the states faster than ever.
     
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    Yup it does get paid by some one. our taxes are higher we also have higher minimum wage and lower rate of true poverty than you guys in the USA. So yer but we are a country in most part where we understand if we pull our weight we are rewarded in most part with these fancy things that make our quality of life better, while there are many people like to bitch and moan about it from time to time.
    if they are being honest we do have it pretty sweet here and not to many besides the rich would they want to lose much of our perks.
    But if your being honest with your self, your freedom of speech is just written on a piece of paper, you really dont have much if you really think about it. You cant even walk upto the guys who run your country and tell them what you really think of them with out ending up in a body bag, the best you can do in the US is take a pot shot on twitter. You have protests in the US and police open fire on them, and whistle blowers over there end up in jail with sex change operations lol, your freedom of speech is only for the rich, no one else.
    Ours isnt perfect by a mile, but its a bit more genuine than what the US likes to think they have.
     
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  3. Jim4silver

    Jim4silver Well-Known Member

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    Yeah this happens everyday. You're lucky Oz has vast mineral resources. Kind of like oil to Arabs.
     
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    JohnnyBravo300 Well-Known Member

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    I didnt hear about protesters getting shot down. Theres nothing in the news.
     
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    Jim4silver Well-Known Member

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    Kent State, 1970. Four dead in Ohio.... Don't know if that counts since it was Ohio National guard. Not the police.

     
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    yer, with the invention of social media, US politics is starting to trickle down into our politics also. So the divide between left and right is widening.
    So sadly when the left go ape shit about the right here as they are increasingly putting Our conservative side of politics in the same basket as the USA style right, which in then turn the left are becoming more and more socialist like the US left.
    And the cycle continues with our right side starting to relate to the point of looking similar to the USA Right side in retaliation. Lets face it both Extreme Left and Extreme Right are oppressive, they just oppress a different class of people but both do it through force.
    It was much better in the days when majority of both major parties were more slightly right or left of center not extreme on either side. We Always had extreme minor parties but no one previously voted for them, which is starting to change sadly.
    So yer USA politics is increasingly more toxic and effecting Aus than it has been previous. I would be nice for every one elses sanity that the USA sort their shit out. It does believe it or not effect other countries. If you asked me over the majority of my life If i was anti US I would have said no and most Australians would have said no, even after all the times we have followed the USA into stupid wars that have nothing todo with us, as the US usually redeemed them selves in one way or another to warrant continued support. but its increasingly hard to keep faith in the US, simply due to the stupidity going on over there with US politics from both sides. I wouldnt be alone on that. Hence some of my outburst that seem a bit Anti US. It just sucks seeing US politics finding their way into our political thinking and that Left and right gap widening. ten years ago no one in Aus gave two shits who the US President was let alone bothering to defend one over the other, It would be nice to get back to that again.
    We are far from perfect but you guys are continually making us look pretty good, but sadly we likely are heading down that route as this toxic really aggressive style of US politics makes it into our system.
     
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    Great piece from those 2 News people and I Hope
    @realDonaldTrump gets to read this Mr.President. _JOHNLGALT. (AUSSIE).
    p.s. That is a LIVE LINK to his TWITTER account. The comments under the article are worth the read.
     
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    Oddjob Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I agree with them but you should know that this pay TV news channel (Sky) is a sister channel to your Fox News in the US, thus both owned / controlled by the Murdoch family. Not saying that's a bad thing but thought you should know (if you weren't aware).

    Would you hear this type of discussion or any form of pro / positive DJT commentary on our other networks...NO WAY. They are...

    1) ABC - 100% Commonwealth Govt owned and the most left biased media outlet in Australia. Their radio network DJ's border on out and out socialism even though the charter of the ABC (tax payer funded) is that of balanced and unbiased reporting...what a joke.
    2) Ch 7 - Effectively owned by one of Australia's wealthiest men (Kerry Stokes). Kerry Stokes and CH7 tend to keep to the middle of the road re DJT and don't appear to be either for or against.
    3) Ch 9 - is a Australia listed company. Some news reports can be slanted against DJT but in the main they keep to the middle of the road too. They also own a radio network here in Aust which includes a station called 2GB which is probably as right wing as you will get in Australia for major radio station. Kinda like Rush Limbaugh / Sean Hannity 24/7 on the radio would be my closest approximation to what you may know.
    4) Ch 10 - Now owned by CBS (US) and runs several panel shows that are very liberal in their views, do not tolerate conservatives and will take a swipe at DJT when they can.
     
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    Jim4silver Well-Known Member

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    I didn't know about that. They were nicer to Trump that most of the Fox news broadcasters here in the US.
     
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    Still impotus
     
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  14. Jason1

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    Yer Rita Panahi is great Journalist, She is well measured,as mentioned above, she is a conservative but she isnt a raving mad hard core far right type, although the hard core left feminists hate her big time, she gets treated like she is some sort of traitor to the feminist movement because she is a conservative. But like I said she isnt a far right nut job, She isnt even a hard core trump person, But typically I find her opinions fair and I think that is why the left dont like her much as her arguments usually make allot of sense and so its hard to debate her with reasonable logic so her opposition usually attack her with unfair abuse, but she can give it as good as she receives, if you read some of her articles and opinion pieces some of them she totally destroys those who have attacked her. lol
     
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