The LIST - Precious Metals Pumpers

I know silverpete did one of these on a thread but I thought we should do a list and possibly track the predictions some of these guys have made.

Don't get me wrong I like silver and am planning on buying a 3rd ounce of it at the end of the month.

Here's a good thread... http://forums.silverstackers.com/topic-60695-silver-pumpers-are-they-right-page-3.html

I'll add more to the list! Just post.

1) Max Keiser (plus bitcoin and other crytocurrency)
2) Jim Sinclair (son of Bertram Seligman)
3) David Morgan
4) Chris Daune (work'-ed' in US intelligence)
5) SGTreport - Sean Turnbull (actually a publicist and advertising/media specialist for largest companies he claims to be against)
6) Gregory Mannarino
7) Peter Shiff
8) Jim Rogers (plus pumped commodities whilst on a high)
9) Eric Sprott
10) James Turk (owner of gold money)
11) Mike Maloney (precious metals dealer)
12) Harvey Organ
13) Jim Willie (OMG he is hilarious)
14) Gerald Celente
15) Marc Faber
16) Andy Hoffman (precious metals dealer)
17) Jim Rickards
18) King of World News
19) Greg Hunter
20) Silver Doctors
21) Jeff Nielson
22) Lindsey Williams
23) Bix Weir
24) Andrew Maguire
25) Harry Dent (reverse pumper - flips about)
26) Bill Holter
27) Bob Chapman (deceased)
28) Toby Conner
29) John Embry
30) Bo Polny (silver 3 digits in 2016)
31) Marshall Swing
32) Doug Casey
33) Alister Macleod
34) Jeff Berwick (Dollar Vigilante - CIA psyops looking guy)
35) Johnathan Cahn (False prophet type guy)
36) X22 report
37) David Quintieri (The money GPS)
38) wrcmad (reverse pumper - silverstacker member - no such thing as a rigged market).
39) SRS Rocco - Steve St. Angelo
40) Daily Reckoning - Actually given dates of when the big crash will occur - nothing happens... ignores it - new date given.

Connect the dots...

 

Paper pumpers

1. US banks take $5 Trillion and leverage up $100T in debt loans
2. Fed prints $4.5 Trillion out of fresh air without any labour and buys up everything supporting paper prices
3. Central banks arround the world start printing at record rates to collapse their currencies
4. Banks create a shadow banking system of interest rate derivatives over $1000 Trillion
5. Companies borrow cash - create debt - to buy back stocks and pump up the stock market
6. Wealth is stolen from you and your children by increasing taxation and inflation.
7. This ginormous fraud is supported by the propaganda pumpers on every TV, Radio and newspaper network.

And that is just part of the paper pumpers ........

They more than balance the few names of news tellers and PM dealers you list

 

You don't consider Andrew Maguire as having even a slight bit of pumpishness? What about Turd Ferguson (Craig Hemke), Bix Weir and Trace Mayer? I think David Morgan is not a pumper, he always seems pretty reasonable and lots of caveats in what he says.

I think you need to define what you mean by pumper. There is a difference between selling/promoting/marketing PMs versus pumping, which I think is more extreme, not so concerned about facts vs headline grabbing, and use of CAPITALS is automatic qualification.

 

Ah turd. How could he be left off that list.......endless exciting breathless commentaries on the wittering's of max keiser and the 'guest' post on inevitable collapse of the evil capitalist west and a website so thick with advertising and donation buttons it looks like a popup ad from 1996.




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http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/gallery/2012/nov/19/world-toilet-day-in-pictures

 

Bix Weir definitely.

David Morgan is on the record for saying silver is going past $300 an ounce. He's well up on the list. He's called multiple bottoms too and then goes on to say how correct he's been. Yeah in certain interview he does put caveats around it. But he's been far more fever pitched since the drop below $30.

Trace Mayer I'd never heard of him, he's more bitcoin on googling him. Well outside PM pumping for the most part. Obviously MSM and Keiser have picked up on him. Blogger and early adopter of bitcoin.

Will look into Turd, just looking at him at the moment... seems so far to be talking about historical perspective. I will look for his calls.

 

Re Trace, anyone whos website is Run To Gold http://www.runtogold.com/ surely has to qualify, I mean he isn't saying stroll to gold, or amble to gold.

And if you have to look into Turd, I mean how can you be qualified to put this list together We must move in different goldbug circles, I thought Turd's stuff was unavoidable.

I would also recommend Dave Kranzler http://investmentresearchdynamics.com/about/ and not just because I've had run ins with him http://goldchat.blogspot.com.au/2011/05/dave-in-denver-golden-truth.html

What about Harry Dent as an antimatter pumper https://www.bullionvault.com/gold-news/gold-harry-dent-012020142 "Around $700 per ounce is a certainty in gold by 2015 to 2016 and $250 per ounce is a possibility well down the line by 2020-2023."

 

Yeah... "run to gold" is pumperish but I don't think this guy has had anywhere near the exposure to merit being on the list. He's just too small time.

No, I know of Turd but not his calls. He's certainly pro metals but I have not heard outlandish calls like Morgan's $300 plus or Keiser's $500 plus.

Dave Kranzler, can't remember if I know this guy.

Added Harry Dent to the list. He flips about... Dow 40,000 then Dow Crash etc. etc.


I think as far as Central Bank intervention into markets and the fiat system, that's not really a conspiracy to me. It's admitted very openly so that to me doesn't qualify as a pumper, I've only really heard Turd discuss fringe topics but no outlandish calls like Keiser. If there are link post please.

 

Ted Butler....

 

$250 on the black market once everyone takes up the mark of the beast perhaps.

 

I wouldn't call Marc Faber a pumper. He doesn't have agenda to push and never talks like a salesman. Also, he makes his money outside PM markets. He just admits that he likes his gold and he has inherent mistrust for governments.

In this list he is the most respectful person, IMO. If he disappears from the media completely, he still will make his money. Very few of the people on that list will be able to make any profits without media attention.

That's the sure sign of a pumper - without media hype they wither quickly.

 

Marc Faber predicted many crashes one that quickly comes to mind is his "worse than" 1987 style stock market crash by October 2014. And his 2014 predictions... just google his predictions. He is a pumper but very charming and likable fellow. Hmmm... he has a newsletter that he makes money from and it's publicized when he gives interviews. Also in 2015 his prediction is that this year "it is the beginning of the end of paper money". Marc stays on the list. He is very likeable though.

EDIT:
Ever notice a pattern amongst these guys?

Now I wholeheartedly support the purchase of gold and silver but there's a like a script that these guys keep reading from. Might take a few years but after more than a decade you'll see it. By all means buy gold and silver, go for it. Fiat is fiat and it's a terrible debt based system of exchange but don't overlook the pumpers because of it. Is there an agenda...

 

What I wanted to say is that the list composed of quite diverse characters. You have the full spectrum: from people who make their money elsewhere, but don't mind publicity (or enjoy it for personal reasons, or whatever) and to total clowns like Keiser or Celente whose livelihood crucially depends on media's attention and hype.

Many heavyweight guys (including billionaires) publish newsletters and charge for subscription. I don't know what Faber's net worth is, but he makes an impression of a guy who makes his money regardless of media exposure.

My definition of a pumper is: someone who creates as much hype as possible around his subject and whose livelihood crucially depends on the publicity. Not everyone from the list falls in that category.

 

Well Marc is staying for the reasons listed above.

To me it's irrelevant what the net worth of the pumper is or where they source their income from.

Certainly a level media attention is required to make the list. Obviously there's a lot more to getting on the list that I haven't fully expounded and each of the names have multiple reasons for being on there.

As an example people like Jim Rogers or Jim Sinclair or Jim Rickards, the 3 Jim's, are all known for being part of the "establishment" yet voice on MSM about how anti-establishment, it's just so ironic and hypocritical. There's something going on there.

 

BullionBaron (although he has very few subscribers) has been one of the worst; https://twitter.com/BullionBaron/status/557528029551804416

 

Don't forget sammysilver, he keeps talking it up, yet consistently buys on the dips.

 

stackers hate silver bashers and anyone who likes silver way to much. And if silver become to mainstream were out of the game. Were such hipster investers, when did we become so freakin cool.

 

You mentioned he who shall remained unnamed... the silverstacker's venerated cheerleader.

Let's see if you can read past this...

In that case a silver cane will be a worthy addition.

 

Bill Holter - $5,000 Silver? - http://silverseek.com/commentary/5000-silver-14318

 

I find it sad that the pumpers couldn't work out that silver was in a bear market... Baron just continues to PUMP PUMP PUMP the whole way DOWN DOWN DOWN!

 

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