The Federal Election Is Over - What Next?

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  1. Ag bullet

    Ag bullet Well-Known Member

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    Sshhh.....don't tell them they are heading for another train wreck. Just let them have another train wreck
     
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  2. Oddjob

    Oddjob Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    HAPPY FAMILIES....
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    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...his-leadership-ambitions-20190530-p51sr4.html

    Bill Shorten may not have abandoned his leadership ambitions

    By Latika Bourke
    May 30, 2019 — 11.45pm

    The former opposition leader used an address to MPs in Canberra on Thursday to pledge loyalty to Labor's newly installed leadership team and launch a stinging attack on corporate Australia and sections of the media over the party's shock defeat at the May 18 election.

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    Labor leader Anthony Albanese and deputy Labor leader Richard Marles applaud Bill Shorten at a caucus meeting in Canberra on Thursday.Credit:Alex Ellinghausen

    "Rather than commentators' snap judgements, or hindsight masquerading as insight, it is important that we take our time to reflect," Mr Shorten said.

    "But obviously we were up against corporate leviathans, a financial behemoth, spending an unprecedented hundreds of millions of dollars advertising, telling lies, spreading fear. They got what they wanted."

    Mr Shorten has decided against moving to the backbench and will serve on Labor's frontbench in a move being widely interpreted by colleagues as a sign he still harbours leadership ambitions.


    Several allies of Mr Shorten told The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age on Thursday that the former union leader told them he has not abandoned the idea of regaining the Labor leadership despite being rejected by voters at the ballot box at two consecutive national elections.

    A spokesman for Mr Shorten said the claim was "bullshit".

    "The only thing he's up for is fighting for Labor values and uniting Labor to support the new leadership," the spokesman said.

    Mr Shorten used his speech to caucus to publicly endorse Mr Albanese as Labor's 21st leader, despite the pair's long-standing rivalry.

    "I am ready to help you with uniting our party and carrying the case for Labor values to the Australian people," Mr Shorten said. "Apart from [wife] Chloe and my family, this party, our collective cause, is my life. I love the Labor Party. I love the labour movement – always have and always will."

    Mr Albanese said Mr Shorten had a "significant role to play" over the next three years and defended his inclusion in shadow cabinet.

    Mr Albanese will spend the next two days allocating frontbench portfolios but is unlikely to give his predecessor the prominent health portfolio, which the former leader has expressed interest in taking on. MPs also believe Mr Shorten has been angling for the prestigious foreign affairs role.

    Under Labor's rules, the Left and Right factions select who will form the frontbench but the leader allocates the portfolios. New entrants to the ministry include Katy Gallagher, Murray Watt, Matt Keogh, Madeleine King and Andrew Giles.

    "Our team is a mix of new and emerging people coming through," Mr Albanese said.

    overhaul his economics team and wants to send a more business-friendly signal to the private sector. Jim Chalmers is expected to replace Chris Bowen as shadow treasurer, with Mr Bowen possibly shifting to the industry portfolio. Clare O'Neil is tipped to be named finance spokesman while Canberra MP Andrew Leigh, who does not belong to any faction, was dumped from the frontbench altogether.

    Victorian MP Richard Marles took the party's deputy role unopposed while former NSW premier Kristina Keneally was elected Penny Wong's deputy in the Senate after South Australian powerbroker Don Farrell stepped aside to make way for her fast-tracked promotion.

    Mr Albanese denied the switch was a "captain's call" but conceded Senator Farrell was "prepared to step aside as Labor's deputy leader in the Senate on the basis that I had made it clear that my view was that there be gender balance in Labor's leadership team".

    In a sign of her seniority in the party, Senator Wong is unlikely to be challenged for the foreign affairs portfolio, despite Mr Marles long coveting the role.

    Labor is likely to hold 68 seats in the House of Representatives compared to the government's 77.

    The latest Australian Electoral Commission count shows Labor suffered a national swing against it of 1.34 per cent.
     
  3. JulieW

    JulieW Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Looks like the more wealthy were on Labor's side. Able to assess tax policy perhaps. lol


    “If anything, it seems that Labour’s message was marginally well received, or at least benign, in the wealthy electorates. On average, Labor received a swing of 1.54% towards them while the wealthy swung away from the LNP by 2.24%. The Coalition only managed to gain at the expense of Labor in four of the 20 seats, in Reid, Mackellar, Cook and Mitchell. Arguably, Labor’s platform, message and leadership didn’t scare off voters in these affluent areas.”

    from Crikey.​
     
  4. mmm....shiney!

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    That’s wrong. The LNP gained at the expense of Labor in the 3 coal seats of Flynn, Dawson and Capricornia. This is why I don’t read Crikey, when will southern journos stop trying to impose their world view on others? So totally out of touch.

    The election up here was all about Labor policy. It wasn’t about Shorten. It was about Labor policy and in particular climate change. Once more - Labor’s polices on climate change and in particular coal mining lost them the election.
     
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    Outgoing Senator Jim Molan becomes the most voted for person / individual in Australian electoral history with circa 115k of first pref NSW Senate votes for him in last month's election. It appears unlikely that Jim will get the 400k odd needed to obtain "quota share" to be elected back to the senate.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/na...n/news-story/8ff877e60851725d22b02c5de7c939f4
    https://www.2gb.com/jim-molan-makes-political-history/

    Shame on the Libs for their factional in fighting that put Jim at number 4 on the ticket in the first place plus they'll most likely overlook Jim for the casual vacancy to be filled in coming months. Once again factionalism regardless of party comes to fore and prevents a popular and very capable person from serving in parliament.
     
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    Labors new shadow treasurer Jim Chalmers was Wayne Swans under study :confused: nothing more to say except :rolleyes:
     
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    After 50 years of elections and politics I am of the opinion that we are now governed like some tinpot banana republic, with political corruption so entrenched it is a norm.
     
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    mrsilverservice Well-Known Member

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    The election is over what next -

    # A new low emissions coal fired power station somewhere on the east coast.

    # Have a sensible debate about a Nuclear Power Plant,most other G20 nation has some.

    # Drought proofing the country as much as possible by building more dams and channeling water from the north all the way to the south,this should have been done 50 years ago :rolleyes:





    The Book of John - Chapter 4 verse 14

    but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst.

    But the water that I shall give him will become a fountain of water springing up into ever lasting life :)
     
  9. mmm....shiney!

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    +1 to the nuclear debate

    -1 for the fairy tale quote
     
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    Broke even again and always :D
     
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    Just an observation post the last Federal election......can't remember hearing or seeing the media jam the latest opinion polling results down our throats every two weeks......so went looking and found Newspoll as at 29 Sept 2019.

    I guess unless Labor is leading in the polls and the media can crow about it, it ain't worth reporting on. Not that I'm missing the reporting thereof, but just observing bias in the press on this subject. If Albo was leading Morrison in preferred PM, the ABC would be all over it but Albo is doing worse than Shorten in the polls.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/newspoll


     
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    Probably the best thing I’ve seen you post.
     
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    This doesn’t take into consideration how many voters put a minor party with a pet policy they like in the first box knowing that party wasn’t going to get up but made sure either of the coalition parties were high enough that their vote would eventually fall to them.

    If votes stuck in one box and never got re-distributed based on 2/3rd preferences those numbers would look vastly different. So the primary vote essentially means nothing.
     
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    The preferential system best reflects consumer choice in the electoral market.

    If we had non-compulsory voting then we’d likely see a different outcome. Forcing the uninformed to participate in democracy can hardly be a positive.
     

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