THE DEEP STATE IS UNDER ATTACK

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  1. Gullintanni

    Gullintanni Well-Known Member

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    The problem here Jim is he is also a good friend of Trump.
    And it is Trump that is quoted as saying "he is a great guy and like me loves beautiful women ,and he likes them on the younger side"

    I am not sure how him singing like a bird is going to do anything but damage Trump even if Trump is completely innocent, it will be a case of guilty by association.

    EDIT: Plus the prosecutor that gave him the sweetheart deal (Acosta) is now part of Trumps team as his secretary of Labor.
     
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    You could be right. But I would think that anything Trump has done in the past that is illegal, etc, has already been looked at with a microscope by his many enemies?

    Trump has already admitted to grabbing women "by the p***y", which didn't go over very well. Hopefully they were all 18 or older.

    Back before Trump was president he was friends with everyone famous it seems. Many photos of him with the Clintons and others, so the fact he knew the billionaire Epstein would not be out of the ordinary. The question would be did he take trips to the island or whatever it was where they brought the under age gals to be with the rich powerful guys?

    Check out this article. Comey's daughter may be one of the prosecutors going after Epstein. This could be filed under "You couldn't make this $hit up". If she has it in for Trump and is trying to use Epstein to get Trump, that would also open up charges to all the other big shots who went to the island or whatever it was.

    The victims have been pushing this since the plea in 2008 because they didn't get proper notice and are mad at the lenient deal Epstein received. I think these new charges are coming from that and not out to get Trump. But I'm guessing.

    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profil...ortedly-a-prosecutor-in-jeffrey-epstein-case/
     
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    This is where i see the problem perhaps?
    You and i both know Trump does not have to do anything wrong for the left to attack him and try to make us believe he is Satan.
    Just having a quote they can call upon where he says a sex offender is an ok guy is going to be ammunition enough for them to have yet another unnecessary attack against him.

    On the plus side i am more confident each day that he will secure and major victory at the next election and unless something big happens for the democrats i can see them losing the house as well.
    Fingers crossed.
    I like Trump for some the same reasons the left hate him.
    I LOVE that he calls a spade a spade and does not cowtow to the PC craze that is upon us.
    id much rather be working with a guy who calls me a wanker to my face as Trump would do instead of having them smile to my face while trying to undermine my work behind my back.
    At least with the guy i know is calling me a wanker i can put efforts in place to fix the situation if i wish, that is not so easy when you do not even know there is a problem.
     
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    Now that's something you won't hear on CNN / Australia's ABC.


    Trump has given up a lot to be President be it financial, lack of personal freedom (both now and post White House) not to mention the 24/7 attacks on him from the press and others in society who used to count him as a friend (political donor) before running for President.....so why would someone give up what DJT has (and taken all that grief from the left and the media) to be President if he had an Epstein skeleton in the closet (as the media and others will try to establish).....that if it came out would ruin him and force him from office??? If Trump had such skeleton's I dare say he would not have run in 2016.

    Under DJT's administration, the law enforcement officials across the US have dramatically increased their arrests of people from human trafficking, so it doesn't make sense for DJT to push the DOJ to act in this way if there was potential for something, sometime to lead back to him. Sure he know Epstein, but people with money / power know and associate with similar people...isn't that right Bill Clinton???

    Remember, on 21 Dec 2017, Trump signed an executive order : Executive Order Blocking the Property of Persons Involved in Serious Human Rights Abuse or Corruption

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presiden...volved-serious-human-rights-abuse-corruption/

    This executive order allows for the assets of those found guilty of same to be seized by the US Treasury. One wouldn't enact such an EO if it could come back to bite them.
     
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    Came across this interview from March 2019, where Mike Cernovich (the gent who kicked off the legal proceedings to get the Epstein doc's unsealed) is interviewed by Stefan Molyneux. For anyone not up to speed with how the release of the Epstein 2008 court doc's are to be made public, Mike Cernovich talks through the process to date up to March 2019.


     
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    All these attacks as a matter of fact will benefit Trump as it will be seen as attempts by the deep state to malign him. If you cry wolf too many times, even if the wolf really comes, no one believes it.
     
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    upload_2019-7-8_20-39-19.png Ring Ring...Ring Ring.... upload_2019-7-8_20-40-8.jpeg

    Prince Andrew: Mummy, lovely to hear from you.

    QEII: Andrew, we decided we need to get you out of the way due to this distasteful Epstein matter, thus we are bringing you back into active military service with the Navy.

    Prince Andrew: Oh, I see, well if I can help the Royal Family in any way, you know I will Mummy..What will I be doing...PR, Navel liaison to the US??

    QEII: No....Solo Commando raids on Iranian tankers.

    Click..................
     
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    The prosecution is seeking to have this multi-story New York building owned by J.E forfeited to the U.S. Gov't in the just unsealed indictment. Below is the buildings entrance, before & after the raid by authorities.
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    This article says while searching through Epstein's residence with their warrant, they found what I will call illegal porn. If that can be tied to him, he is screwed. That would obviously be outside of any plea offer he made in 2008 relative to those claims.

    The illegal porn charges alone will carry decades in jail. Especially for someone with priors for sex related offenses, which Epstein has.

    Unless he can get the search thrown out of court for some reason, it looks like he is going downtown on the porn, even if they can't get him on the other stuff for some crazy reason.

    They will analyze any computers, etc, for more possible evidence probably before they file any of those charges. Those charges could be held like an "insurance policy" to be collected upon if the older charges (sex trafficking, etc) fail for some reason.

    https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2019/07/08/feds-guess-found-epsteins-manhattan-mansion/
     
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    Still not a done deal.
    Just having images of "young looking women and girls" does not mean they were under age , and proving they were under age would be essential.
    Also ,if the girls are proven to be under age then unless they are in clearly sexualized scenarios then all could be explained away as art or similar.

    The guy is a billionaire and has VAST resources so this could be a long drawn out situation.

    Guys like to have sex, and having sex with younger chicks is also very very attractive to a lot of guys so this could be a massive massive case far beyond anything we could imagine.
    I mean if he has a trove of vid of himself within an orgy of 16 year old girls would he not just be able to say that it occurred here in NZ or over in Aussie and then be sweet because our age of consents make that ok?
     
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    Gullintanni,

    The law here regarding illegal porn is very strict. The age of all "models" must be 18 or over. If the picture/movie is one of someone underage, it would qualify for illegal status if there was anything sexual along with the nudity. Sexual can be deemed by the pose, self touching, zeroing in on genitals, etc. It is not a difficult burden to reach for the Gov usually unless completely innocent nudist type photos. But even those can draw charges from overzealous prosecutors at times.

    In the article it mentions that some of the girls in the photos are identified, and it is known they were underage at the time of the photos.

    What is kind of strange is that in some states, the age of consent for sexual relations is 16, in more states 17, and some 18 (California is 18 which strikes me as odd considering).

    So if a person who is 16 or 17 is legally having sex, and they decide to film or photograph it (or their partner does), they can be charged with producing illegal porn and possession as well, even though they are the "victim" at the same time (if under 18). If they text or email the videos/photos, they can get distribution charges which carry mandatory long sentences. The 18 year old requirement for porn is Federal. So the states can't change it.

    The article said some of the photos were in a safe in his residence. I am guessing but would imagine that some of those photos are of the girls from the original allegations back in 2008, and would be easy to identify age, etc.
     
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    Those states with the different laws is crazy i agree.
    Lots of laws are very strange .
    The age of consent here is 16 for boys and girls (i say boys and girls because until about 2007 there was not age law protecting boys).
    If you are having sex with a 16 year old and offer them anything in exchange then you become a sex offender as prostitution is illegal for under 18 year olds.
    A bit like your states with strange laws i find that one of ours a bit strange and hard to stomach.
    Bang a teen,legal>>>>>Bang the same teen for cash and BANG >>>sex offender.

    Just as a side note RAPE of a male by a female is still not recognized with a specific crimes act here in NZ ,but male vs female rape is .
    Rape of a male is only covered by the all encompassing "indecent assault and sexual violation "acts here.
    And to get really off topic , common assault in NZ can result in 1 year jail>>>MALE ASSAULTS FEMALE can result in 2 years jail, and again no crimes act or similar for female assaults male.

    Strange how any of the above can be possible in this pro EQUALITY world aye:)
     
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    Video from 2015. You can find the full video here LINK

     
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    Have been hearing mention about this on youtube for at least 12 months, some Royals and Pollies were also touted as being involved so its been festering in the background for some time.
     

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