The anti-US thread

Discussion in 'Current Affairs' started by mmm....shiney!, Dec 21, 2019.

  1. alor

    alor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    The US laid waste to many villages when they dropped the big bombs. In the mud and aftemarth children and women tending their fields sank into the earth never to be seen again
     
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    The US has its fair share of problems, but it's still one of the freest places on earth (in terms of personal liberties and rights).
    For all of Trump's issues, he's allowed the deranged Lefties to continue on with their tantrums with little interference to their lives.
    If you did this in most parts of world you would end up in jail or worse.


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    Trump signs controversial defense bill calling for sanctions against Russia, Turkey
    WASHINGTON, Dec. 21 (Xinhua) -- U.S. President Donald Trump on Friday signed into law a 738-billion-U.S.-dollar defense bill which includes controversial provisions calling for sanctions against Russia and Turkey.

    Trump approved the 2020 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), which will increase the U.S. defense spending by about 20 billion dollars, or about 2.8 percent, on Friday night at a signing ceremony held at the Joint Base Andrews near Washington.

    The sprawling legislation has stirred up opposition overseas as it contains punitive provisions against Russia, Turkey and other countries.

    The bill notes that "(NDAA) protects European energy security by imposing sanctions related to Russian energy pipelines Nord Stream 2 and TurkStream."

    Despite facing potential sanctions, Moscow and Berlin reaffirmed their commitments to complete the Nord Stream 2 project and put it into operation. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said last week in Washington that "neither Nord Stream 2 nor TurkStream will stop," according to a transcript released by his ministry.

    http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-12/21/c_138648061.htm
     
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    Oddjob its okay, I won't take the comment personally, after all I am heavily insulated.
     
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    Highly recommend the documentary "Fog of War" interviewing Robert McNamara, who was involved in the firebombing campaign against Japan.

    67 Japanese cities burned.

    Certainly right up there at Genghis Khan-level activity.
     
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    Yes although their freedoms are shrinking almost daily. The 2A is the only thing standing in the way of their total enslavement, and perhaps the worlds'.
     
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    ^ so that's why they want to get rid of the 2A?
     
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    They would like to get rid of:

    2A
    2B (pencil) press, speech
    2C (eyes) open internet

    through the use of

    2D lethal force
    2E education
    2F film, television, entertainment

    and we all know that

    2G should actually be 5G
     
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    One of my favourite political doco's.

    Can be seen / downloaded from: https://archive.org/details/TheFogOfWarElevenLessonsFromTheLifeOfRobertS.Mcnamara

    Well worth watching.

    I found a couple of things interesting form that doco re the bombing of the Japanese cities:

    1) The comparison in size of those Japanese cities bombed and destroyed as compared to US cities...provides some perspective, and

    2) McNamara openly says and quotes LeMay (who ran the bombing of Japan and later Chief of Airforce) that if the US had of lost the war, LeMay and others would have been tried for war crimes...Same could be said for the UK's "Bomber Harris" who oversaw the fire bombings of German cities.

    Guess this proves the old adage...."those who win the war, write the history".
     
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    Campaign Trump and the Patriots were going to fix all this but as you can see hes now part of the problem.
    He was bringing our troops home and ending the wars, then bombed Syria as soon as he won haha.
    We dont pledge allegiance to any government or any queen, only what the flag stands for.
    It's up to the citizens to change this but there hasnt been enough suffering yet for american to get off lamebook.
    It will happen eventually and America ideals are worth fighting for.
     
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    I really like the ideals, in particular this part of the Declaration of Independence:

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness...

    But the next sentence revokes and crushes the first.

    ..That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed

    What if the whole thing was a scam from the start?

    A trick to attract honorable and noble people from around the world to sacrifice their life and labour to ultimately support a new elite group that usurped a relatively mild and distant English king?
     
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    The Founding Fathers in the main were small government advocates ie the function of government was primarily to uphold individual liberty. There were of course dissenters amongst the group but generally they were honourable.

    Lincoln nailed rights to the cross and crucified liberty.
     
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    I take it we are skipping over the violent crushing of the Whiskey Rebellion in 1791 and various other acts of lethal force in a continuous arc until the present?
     
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    Not skipping over, just know nothing about it.

    If you took a list of ideal achievements and evaluated the Founding Fathers against that list, you’d be hard pressed finding anything to top what they set out to achieve, let alone their intellect and moral foundation. Sure, none of them were without fault, but again, I point to Lincoln and his role in the destruction of liberty. Which has been glossed over.

    The US was born in the 1700’s, and it was a shining light compared to the Europe it managed to divorce itself from.
     
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    Germany accuses US of meddling in German politics https://en.news-front.info/2019/12/...y1AZ5S-wVMPrOkXn8OH5KyE#.XfrkGpIoVUw.facebook

    Supporting the once-short-sighted and destructive anti-Russian campaign of the West, today Germany is faced with the threat of its own national interests due to the actions of the United States.
    This statement was made by the Prime Minister of Saxony Michael Kretschmer in an interview for the Mitteldeutscher Rundfunk.

    According to the politician, the recent decision of the European Union to extend the validity of anti-Russian sanctions is a mistake, because such an approach did not in the least serve to resolve the conflicts.

    “In my opinion, an extension is a mistake. Sanctions did not provide for de-escalation of conflicts. Everything is quite the opposite, and now we see the impermissible interference of the United States in the implementation of the Nord Stream-2 project, which is important for us. There is already enough evidence of the failure of the sanctions policy. Restrictions must be removed as quickly as possible, ”Kretschmer said, stressing that the lifting of sanctions is also necessary because they“ seriously affect the economy of East Germany. ”

    The prime minister also noted that many heads of government of the East German federal states adhere to this position. And the number of supporters of the idea of lifting sanctions is constantly growing.

    As News Front previously reported, the US Congress passed a package of sanctions against companies involved in the construction of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline. The head of the Eastern Committee of the German Economy, Oliver Hermes called it an overt attack on the sovereignty of the European Union. At the same time, German Foreign Minister Heiko Maas said that US actions are unacceptable for Berlin.
     
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    For anyone not up on US news, there's a shit storm brewing in Virginia.
    Could be the start of something big.
    The democrats act oblivious to the real harm they could be staring down.
    It's about to get REAL!
     

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