Ten Reasons Not to Abolish Slavery

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  1. bordsilver

    bordsilver Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Tom Woods' summary of Robert Nozick's Tale of the Slave.

    Alternatively, a short ~4min video is here
     
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    Two reasons.

    1. a person legally owned by another and having no freedom of action or right to property
    2. a person who is forced to work for another against his will
     
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    I'm trolling Shiney ;)
     
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    Actually it crossed my mind that it may have been a Dorothea Dix. ;)
     
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    Yes, but the plantation is much bigger, it now encompasses an entire landmass that we are relatively free to wander around in, and we have beer, TV, sport and all manner of things to keep us entertained. We are even allowed to visit other plantations and there are agreements between some plantations that they will accept each other's slaves. As long as we don't piss off the masters too much and give them what they demand at all times and do as they say then you have nothing to fear from them. Well, I won't say nothing, you never know with arbitrary authority but it's been OK for quite a few decades for most people now.

    So, I mean, really? What do you have to complain about? Being a slave isn't so bad.
     
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    We even get to keep a percentage of the proceeds of our labour in the form of plantation scrip that can be exchanged for a limited range of goods and services deemed legal by the plantation masters.
     
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    Actually, it wasn't so long ago that young Australian males were compulsorily rounded up and shipped off out of the country to fight and die.

    Is conscription a form of slavery?
     
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    Yes. Google "Is conscription a form of slavery?" and see what you get.
     
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    It's my biggest beef with the Liberal Party's constitution.
     
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    Well, I honestly have no idea about the Liberal Party constitution but my question would be do they follow it anyway? I imagine, pretty much like any constitution, that it is nominally followed, but quickly disregarded when it becomes inconvenient. Either that or it is constantly changing in which case, what real relevance does it have?

    I just don't imagine members of parliament consulting a constitution when they go to make their vote on any particular issue. Perhaps I'm wrong?
     
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    bordsilver Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    :lol: No, they only broadly hold to the spirit of it (as Lang Hancock said in that article from the 70's). It's a bit like a guilty conscience that party members bring out and shake in front of the parliamentarians every now and then but then gets lost in the political butt-saving and vote-bribing that is typical of representative democracies (as discussed ad nauseum in shineys! Democracy thread). A few of the current cabinet members like Brandis seem to be trying to go back to its roots but has yet to actually succeed in doing anything.
     
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