Syrian Gas Attack

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    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2018/09/28/s-300-syria-sets-stage-for-standoff-end.html

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    TOM LUONGO
    28.09.2018 | FEATURED STORY
    S-300’s to Syria Sets the Stage for the Standoff to End


    In the game of power politics, appeasement always ends in tears. Once you commit to a path you have no option but to see it through to its fullest end or fold when the stakes rise beyond an acceptable level.

    Vladimir Putin responded to Israel’s betrayal by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu with the only move he could make short of touching off World War III, crossing the US/Israeli red line of giving S-300 missile defense systems to Syria and upgrading their anti-missile technology and integration to the point of creating, what The Saker is calling, “a de facto no-fly zone” over Western Syria, Lebanon, Israel and the Eastern Mediterranean.

    Ball’s in your court Bibi and Trump.

    And the response from them has been pretty much nothing. The US State Department called it a “dangerous provocation.” Defense Secretary James Mattis and National Security Advisor John Bolton quickly ran out and said nearly contradictory things about the US’s long-term plans in Syria.

    All of it looks like panic.

    Because, last week Vladimir Putin and Recep Tayyip Erdogan raised the stakes for Syria’s enemies by brokering a deal which precluded the invasion the US, U.K., France and Israel wanted. They thought they were in control of the situation, that they had maneuvered Russia and Syria into a no-win situation in Idlib.

    The narrative had been prepared.

    The White Helmets were in place along with the drums of chlorine. All that was needed was the chaos of war between the pro-Syria coalition and the head-chopping Salafist animals holed up in Idlib.

    And then the unthinkable happened. Erdogan chose sides.

    The whole plan unraveled quickly because without war how can the “Animal” Assad use chemical weapons against civilians? This is why the attack on Syria by those four Israeli F-16s was so sloppy. I said last week that it looked like a setup to provoke Russia into reacting emotionally and it didn’t work.

    Why?

    Because morons like John Bolton and the rest of the neoconservative ‘adults in the room’ make the same mistake over and over again with every one of these operations. And they never learn.

    And that mistake is expecting people with vastly different cultures and experience to respond to tragic situations the same way they would. Bolton and Netanyahu expected the Russians to react the same way hyper-neurotic Israelis and Americans with their variations on Manifest Destiny as the world’s chosen people would to the deaths of 15 airmen aboard one of their planes.

    They expected a hue and cry large enough to force Putin to do something stupid by pressuring him via fifth columnists within the Kremlin and Russian media. In their masturbatory fantasies they even considered Putin being overthrown because he took one too many slaps to the face.

    This is what passes for analysis by the best and brightest foreign policy experts in the US

    That should scare you. These people make policy.

    These are the people who form the core of the Deep State ‘resistance’ to Donald Trump by yanking papers from his desk, plotting coups and handing him bad intelligence to prevent him from re-aligning US foreign policy with the shifting realities of the twenty-first century.

    And their dreams of conquest ran aground against the rocks that are Russians. This is a culture that threw 20 million people at the Germans to stop their advance across the European continent 75 years ago. They have a different mindset and a different perspective on what sacrifice and suffering entails.

    And for that reason, Putin’s response was measured and devastating. Israel showed no remorse, blaming the Russians themselves for the deaths of their men. That is the very definition of chutzpah. This is what psychopaths do, blame their victims by refusing to accept responsibility for anything.

    Well, now, it doesn’t matter. Now the board state has been set.

    If Russia’s anti-missile and electronic warfare capabilities are as good as the scuttlebutt says they are then the anti-Syrian alliance is out of moves.

    Because under no circumstances can we be the aggressors here. The Chosen People tell themselves they are defending the rights of the oppressed. That narrative is all-important.

    So, now the question is what comes next?

    In my mind we are still looking at a path to the Grand Bargain in the Middle East I’ve been banging on about for over a year. The neocons don’t want it. The worst elements of Israeli and Saudi society don’t want this.

    The US Deep State and arms dealers don’t want this.

    But, it’s now on the table and, unfortunately for Netanyahu, the final deal will be a lot worse for him than it would have been had he taken Putin’s off a few months ago of Iran pulling back all assets 100 kilometers from the Israeli border.

    Now, he will lose all pretense of Israeli air superiority. Now the US has to commit to proving it can overwhelm Russian forces in Syria without concomitant losses which puncture the myths of US military dominance.

    As I’ve said in the past, that myth is one of the major pillars of US financial and political stability. The loss of that myth far outweighs the gains on the ground in Syria. But, unfortunately, last week’s attack proves to me the people involved don’t understand this or care about it.

    Because if they did they wouldn’t have tried to go down this path.

    But it’s the path we’re on now, and one of the few highlights from Trump’s UN General Assembly address was his saying something positive about the political solution to Syria. After last week’s incident he will not have much, if any leverage, in that negotiation.

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    They already got s400 in Latakia base Syria. The Syrian facility that was destroyed by Israel is in Latakia.
     
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    Syria had only S-200 which is not integrated with the S-400 system
    now the trigger is basically at Assad finger tip, this S-300 system is integrated with the Russian S-400 system and the moment the Israel plane take off the field, they the Syrian can see them...
    Well Russia don't see the Israel as their enemy...but Assad will shoot down any plane that violate Syrian airspace, in particular those that try to bomb Syrian targets
    but they can always try it anyway ...
     
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    this follows

    PENTAGON TO REMOVE PATRIOT MISSILE DEFENSE SYSTEMS FROM THE MIDDLE EAST
    Defense Secretary Jim Mattis decided to pull four Patriot missile systems from Jordan, Kuwait and Bahrain “in a realignment of forces and capabilities as the military steps up its focus on threats from China and Russia.”
    https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/P...e-defense-systems-from-the-Middle-East-568050

    as they are no longer able to attack in anyway, total junks must be removed !!!
     
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    You're reading this wrong. Kuwait and Bahrain might as well be a completely different theater from Syria. There has been no reports of foreign military aircraft (Russian, Turkish, Syrian) penetrating Jordanian air space either.

    The only conflict in the region that is employing SCUD-like ballistic missiles (that Patriot can attempt to intercept, with a dubious track record) is the proxy war between Iran and Saudi Arabia in Yemen. The most recent ballistic missile attack on Saudi Arabia was in April.
     
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    won't last a week, let see if they will pay...
     
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    Strategically, Russia and Iran are already no longer pose a threat to the US even if Iran and their proxies will pose as an irritant to Israel. The Syrian conflict is becoming a hung war just like east Ukraine. Turkey claims northern Syria while Russia occupies the eastern side. Iran wants Damascus. They are all fighting for control over Syria with different agenda.
     
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    Putin: ISIS took several US & European citizens hostage in US-controlled part of Syria
    https://on.rt.com/9gr8
     

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