Super Devaluations... It Begins...

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  1. Shaddam IV

    Shaddam IV Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Yes, China does not really have a history of military conquest adventures. They have been very powerful at different times in history but more as traders rather than invaders I think. I suspect now though that this is about to change, the CCP now seems to have it's sights set on empire building.

    I think that a naval and air war between the USA and China is likely in the next decade and as weakened as the US military may be at the moment they will still be able to put China's navy and air force on to the bottom of the ocean. In this war America will not have the disadvantage of troops on the ground as no-one will ever invade China, it would be a pointless and futile exercise. It will be a naval and air war and the US may lose a carrier and some aircraft. China's officer class, pilots and naval captains have no battle experience and no military history. The Americans know how to kill, they know how to operate in chaotic battle conditions when the all plans go out the window and they have a lot of experience taking out little islands in the Pacific.

    Those islands that China dredged up in the South China Sea are a complete waste of money. They are only useful as window dressing and for intimidating the fishing boats of South East asian countries. Once a hot war starts those little islands will cease to exist within the first few hours. America's nuclear powered boomers that lurk in the South China Sea will take them out with their missiles right at the start of the conflict.
     
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    sgbuyer Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I think many people underestimate the danger the region is facing. I don’t see how such a war will be conventional.
     
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    Court Jester Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    lol lol lol

    how wrong you are

    even top us generals have admitted the usa could not beat china in a war
     
  4. Shaddam IV

    Shaddam IV Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    did you read that in The Guardian?
     
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    Not sure why people think there is a 'chance' of war with China.
    The Chinese have been waging an economic war for the last 20 years.Its only now we have woken up to that fact thanks to COVID
    Covid19 forced their hand which they overplayed and exposed what most of us forgot, that the Chinese government is Communist and a dictatorship.
    COVID's appearance relating to the above could almost be considered, fortuitous.
     
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    pressing the red buttons required no experience
    combat experience could easily be bought, they may speak like the enemy, talk like the enemy and the enemy is your own, the boss can actually be working for the evil one
    there can be only one war, that is nuclear, else is of no purpose for the people that looking for war
    any threat will be given a nuclear response, that is Russia
    when there is a shooting war, expect all those ships under water, the precision tech to destroy ships is just like computer games
    look at how the Iranian took out US bases in Iraq
     
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    buying $20k of gold before this run up is looking a bit better than $20k in super at the moment. the bonus? i get to hold the gold.
     
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    Link? oh and other then the ones talking about old outdated naval battles.

    Also there is a difference between winning a conflict and winning a full out war. China might win a conflict, but America will hands down win a war. Though it will be sad to see Chinese cities vaporise into thin air, so i hope a full war never happens.

    Since WW2 America has been spending non stop developing high tech weapons, while China has been building ghost cities and teaching their military to walk in unison.
     
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    and yet could not beat goat farmers hiding in caves in Afghanastan and lost the Korean and Vietnam wars with theiy "superiour" technology
     
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    Ahh so you think those "wars" was meant to be won and ended? Again a war is very different then a conflict or training ground.
     
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    yes the American tried very hard (and failed ) to win in Vietnam

    also their technology advantage is not as great as you seem to think it is.
     
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    You're correct, it's greater then anything i can think of. :D
     
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    the source is more relevant than the table of their study, bias is just human nature
     
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    You'd know bias. o_O
     
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    Denmark was supposed to be first place, or was it Iceland ?
     
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    And where was China?
     
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    China got beaten in Vietnam as well, just when they thought to breezily waltz in after USA had departed.

    For the life of me I cannot fathom the bottomless contempt against USA. Quote Churchill: You can always count on Americans to do the right thing - after they've tried everything else.
    That's good enough for me.
     
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