Like I said gents - cause and effect. All I am saying is that when you find yourself on that bottom rung as a collective, do not ask for help or assistance or understanding or even mercy for that matter because it won't be there. The ONLY reason why the status quo is what it is today is because of decades of bias, political dominance influencing secular policy. That is, political policy skewed to benefit a particular caste at the expense of everyone else. It's little wonder then, that we have such an arrogant, ignorant and bias attitude of that caste's representatives here commenting on the status quo they created. The two predominant attitudes I've seen through 8 pages of this thread have been : 1 - Ignore any real hard data as evidence, uphold personal experience as 'fact'. 2 - Do not complain about a rigged game, capitulate instead. ie Nothing new. But in looping back around to the original thread topic, it is a situation that through simple attrition is starting to shift away. We are now starting to see more and more pressure from the lower rungs of society oppressed by secular policy creating volatile political environments. Politicians are no longer able to maintain any sort of stability in their electorates because they haven't made the necessary paradigm shifts and realised that they cannot continue to run with policy that continues to kick the younger gens now. It's becoming more of a numbers game as the younger gens swell in numbers and the older ones die off, you're seeing a shift in voting numbers that will influence future policy away from putting those boomers on a pedastal and starting to create more equalibrium out there politically. It really doesn't matter what's 'fair' or 'just' in the arguement at all anymore. The policy will simply follow the largest representation and that shift is happening right now, especially since that former 'largest voting population' is moving into retirement and instead of being net tax payers are now becoming net tax consumers. Expect national and state policy to follow suit. The boomers had their time and exploited the living crap out of it at the expense of everyone else. That's about to change and bleating rhetoric about fairness and equality in those twilight years will do you absolutely no good what so ever. For example... http://au.news.yahoo.com/today-tonight/latest/article/-/14007659/public-housing-shake-up/ The winds gents.... they do be a changin' Just be decent to your kids. That malicious SKI ideology is going to come back and bite many in the arse in the years ahead I think.