South African parliament passes expropriation law

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  1. bordsilver

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  2. Shaddam IV

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    Out of respect for Shiney if it's not directly related to the situation in Africa then let it go and start a separate thread. Enough.
     
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    You mean there actually is respect out there for me? :p
     
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    Well we have to start somewhere....
     
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    I guess I will just repeat my offer here.

    We have a person here going personal at a number of attempts.
    claims are here
    Are we done wasting time with self-declared Russians who look at Cyrillic and just see a "funny picture?"
    You are the one who made the claim and when presented with a simple test you failed. Sorry, your claims cannot be trusted. I gave you multiple chances to back up your claim with a simple piece of text and you couldn’t even read it despite claiming to be Russian born and raised. You have no credibility here.

    I am prepared to set a separate thread and wage a sovereign against
    the big mouth.
    (though he is afraid to wage his wallet)

    Shall we do that, would it be fun?
     
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    Back onto the subject at hand. This African situation is a serious topic.

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    Hehe, what a pussy )
    I knew that., easy to be a forum warrior, though
     
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    Update:

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    I won't hold my breath.
     
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    If he thinks that white South Africans will hand over their homes and businesses in an orderly fashion he is a fool. I doubt that he is, I suspect that what he is doing is making a veiled threat - "The confiscation will be orderly because there will be a group of people with carbines pointing them at the farmers". It won't work. It will be fight to the death and it's in no way certain at this point who will win. The only certainty is that the SA agricultural system will be a smoking ruin.
     
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    NO!!!! dont be fkn ridiculous . you smoking the crack pipe again ? :p
     
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    Start from the bottom hey?
     
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    mmm....shiney! Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Force majeure?

    I’ve read* that a representative of the Boer Farmer’s group has said that acquisitions have to be negotiated. I’d say that some farmers may be willing to sell if the price is right, they may be able to buy their way and their family’s way out of SA to another country with the funds.

    *Edit to add: I haven’t cited a primary source for that, nor even a peer-reviewed journal. Sorry.
     
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    From the official page of SA Parliament

    Parliament, Tuesday 27 February 2018 – During its sitting today the National Assembly (NA) resolved to assign the Constitutional Review Committee to review Section 25 of the Constitution – which speaks to the right of property ownership.

    The Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF) led a debate on this motion which the majority party, the African National Congress (ANC), amended before it was later adopted following a vote in the NA.

    In its motion, the EFF moved that the NA, in terms of Rule 253, establish an ad hoc committee to review and amend section 25 of the Constitution to make it possible for the State to expropriate land in the public interest without compensation.

    The ANC amended parts of the motion to read as such: “With the concurrence of the National Council of Provinces (NCOP) instruct the Constitutional Review Committee to review section 25 of the Constitution and other clauses where necessary to make it possible for the state to expropriate land in the public interest without compensation.”

    The motion was adopted following a vote where 241 MPs voted for the amended motion with 83 MPs voting against it.

    The Constitutional Review Committee has been given until 30 August 2018 to report back to the NA.

    ISSUED BY THE PARLIAMENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF SOUTH AFRICA
    https://www.parliament.gov.za/press...mittee-mandate-review-section-25-constitution

    The thing to watch would be the press release from the CRC.


    Another interesting document to watch could the National Land Audit some media refer to.


    *I do cite a prime source, sorry.
    Though it is not convinient for those who prefer to
    eat all the garbage from the Web.
     
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    The area marked "Lesotho" is (I think) the old "Orange Free State" area. This is the area that is predicted as the Boer stronghold in the coming civil war. The theory is that the Boers (who are very well organised) have plans to "bug out" to that zone, with a massive arsenal cached in previous better times. One suggestion is that tactical nuclear weapons (from the Israel/SA partnership) that the former State held, may have been moved there also.

    I was good friends with a former mercenary who assisted with the liberation of Stanleyville ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simba_rebellion ) and also policed in SA, and while he had blood curdling tales, he also suggested that the Boers were an extremely hardy and well trained militia that could, and would, handle itself well against the suicidal tactics of the black terrorists.

    This is another dark and horrible period for the Boers who have a history of dark and horrible times. Some will stay and die on the lands they've held for hundreds of years but I'm very pleased that at least Dutton has brought the issue into the media here and hopefully some innocents will escape. My old friend's mercenary tales were harrowing. Africa is a dark and savage place.

    p.s. and another link on the Congo.
    https://www.sofmag.com/the-stanleyville-massacre/
     
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  16. JulieW

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    p.s. on above. I think the Civil War is much closer than everyone thinks.
     
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    I agree. I've been following the Lauren Southern series, as well as a couple of others by local S.A residents via You Tube for a while now. It's currently a powder keg.

    Regarding Dutton raising the issue and bringing it to the attention of the general public, just wait for the MSM to go for the jugular on that one.

    Aside from this, Lauren Southern has now been banned from entering the UK for being racist. Along with another couple of "right wing news" you tubers.

    Things are beginning to get very real.
     
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    Orange Free State (a province of SA) basically abuts Lesotho (a separate country) around the north-west side, with Bloemfontein as its capital.
     
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    Thanks. Interesting reading.
     
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