South African parliament passes expropriation law

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  1. Oddjob

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    Have a been watching this issue too and quickly drew the parallel with Zimbabwe as others have too. I have little to no expectation that MSM will give this any meaningful coverage nor will western govt's apply pressure to S.A to change policy. The West didn't lift a finger re Uncle Bob in Zim and the WHO even appointed him a "Goodwill Ambassador" which did get sufficient public outcry to be revoked later on. So the outcome for the farmers in S.A is looking bleak.

    Just watched Stefan Molyneux do a good summary on this.

     
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    Have heard that Russia made the offer to resettle some 10-15k S.A farmers. Voices saying same in Aust...let's see if "Turnbull Light"....sorry ScoMo has the brass to help out or at least speak up.......shall I hold my breath?

    RT is a decent news source that covers / provides content western MSM don't. I read it daily.
     
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    Read this today too.

    So IMF gives SA the wink and nod to destroy it's failing economy by killing off it's ability to feed itself. Fast forward a few years, SA is bankrupt, can't feed it's people and in rides the IMF with a bail out package. SA either agrees to some sort of austerity package or sells off the family jewels to int'l corporates / IMF / World Bank and they plunder the hell out of SA which given it's ag and natural resources should be one hellva rich country.........

    Is it just me or does the IMF appear to joy this type of situation.
     
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    I usually try and steer clear of conspiracy type theories but when it comes to the IMF, it is hard to see it any other way.
     
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    Who would’ve thought? A bunch of socialists approving the theft of private property.
     
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    They're obfuscating the theft by calling it 'land reform'.

    I was amazed to see Zimbabwe white farmers returning to farms there. No warning some people.
     
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    Farmers aren’t from the brightest stock
     
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    its just IMF VS BRICS Bank
    Russia provided lands for some farmers
    It is very clear one side is providing solution for the SA people, where else the IMF side still intend to get SA into debt that no one is willing to take up (always come with terms and condition to give up its freedom)
     
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    Since a part of the IMF money is from your taxes, would you prefer IMF to give the money to SA Government as a gift?
     
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    no, IMF is not the only lender there, BRICS bank can assist SA since SA is a member of BRICS
    who is IMF? to dictate the terms
    BRICS bank can do a better deal for sure for its member
     
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    This is serious.
    Confiscation with no debt relief.
    IMF and Western Central Bank agreement.
    Could this be a "trial balloon" of the model to bail out the criminal banksters?
    Steal everybody's stuff and turn them into (debt) slaves?
    Where's my pitch-fork!

    PS> SA produces 70% of the world's platinum. An economic collapse might see investors flee and production grind to a halt. Don't know the facts on the ground, but worth watching.
     
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    the Dutch farmers gone to Russia already, so any would have to follow... remember the trade tariff and sanctions and counter sanctions
    this show us the two opposing sides of world powers
    farmers are just in the middle of that
     
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    Don't mean to be racist, but those Dutch farmers are one tough bunch of hombres.
    Expect an agricultural boom in Russia and a famine in South Africa.
    Australia should have taken all of them...
     
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    If native Africans think that they were hard done by by white settlers wait until the Chinese are finished with them.
     
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    China pledges $60bn to Africa, rejects ‘debt trap’ claims
    https://on.rt.com/9dmp

    The Chinese leader explained that government debt from China’s interest-free loans due by the end of 2018 will be written off for indebted poor African countries, as well as for developing nations in the continent’s interior and small island nations.
     
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    what happen to the drought so far? that would not be good for the farmers and their ouput
     
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    Most of Australia's land mass is classified as "arid" or "semi-arid" where drought is the norm.
    I met (in Hawaii) a South Australian wheat farmer who owned in excess of 500,000 acres.
    He only got rain in one year out of ten - but oh boy - in that year he makes $5 to $10 million.
    The other nine years he shuts down and travels the world with his wife and family.

    So it is the planning and management of drought that is the key.
    But the "city" farmers on the eastern seaboard don't seem to understand this.
    They set up rice fields on grazing land and then rely on irrigation and "water rights" and luck.
    And they always seem to get surprised (and lose their shirts) in the bad years.
    That's why Australia should have taken in those Dutch farmers...
    Our farmers need to man up and stop making stupid decisions and asking for public bail-outs.

    PS> I also blame the CME futures markets for manipulating (downwards) the price of agricultural products.
    They do this to prevent price inflation and to protect the purchasing power of the USD.
    But the "input costs" are always rising and so farming becomes ever more marginal.
    Chuck in some bad years (with poor planning) and the result is devastating...
     
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