Self defence in Australia (LDP)

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  1. mmm....shiney!

    mmm....shiney! Administrator Staff Member Silver Stacker

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    Shouldn't the debate be about shootings rather than what constitutes a mass shooting?
     
  2. radiobirdman

    radiobirdman Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    No it should be about self defence in Australia and the (LDP's) take ON IT
     
  3. Newtosilver

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    You don't want to discuss the defination of a mass shooting because your pal boardie was totally wrong? That is fine as soon as he reads the definition and says he was wrong with all the examples he provided we can move on. Alternativley he can provide a defination from a reputable site that says a mass shooting is 1 or more people ( he said the Lindt cafe was a mass shooting, the shooter only shot and killed one person)

    Can you point me to the definition that tax is theft? There must be a dictionary or something that defines tax as theft? I only checked the oxford dictionary and wikipedia. Help me out here shiney, tax is theft you say...... provide a link to a reputable link. Not some Libertarian, or American Militia that is going to overthrow the govt crackpot site.

    Also what is your definition of a mass shooting according to you? I know what reputable sites say but you will have a different defintion that will probably mean the opposite of what normal reputable sites say. I do not have a Libertarian dictionary. Can you get a Libertarian dictionary? I mean are they available to the public with all the alternate meaning of words?

    You agree with Boardie that the examples he gave are mass shootings even though they do not meet the defination given by reputable sites?

    I am interested as to what you think :)
     
  4. Newtosilver

    Newtosilver Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    The effects of their policy should be able to be discussed, what they want to do will effect all Australians. Examples of how there policy has effected other countries and people should be on the table as well.
     
  5. radiobirdman

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    Tax is theft it makes slaves out of workers
     
  6. radiobirdman

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    Being an simple man I have no need for some politicians opinion especially when its a member of an illegal government

    My opinion is everyone has a right to defend their family and property to the best of there ability, if some tnuc dies in the process bad fcking luck, don't take whats not yours and don't trespass on private property
     
  7. Newtosilver

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    Lol dude meat is murder. Fringe groups and crackpots like to use catchy phrases. Help me out and post a link to the defination of tax that supports your claim tax is theft.

    As for slaves have you heard of the phrase "wage slave"? Some people would say working for an employer makes you a slave but they would just be socialists would'nt they? They love their catchy phrases as well.

    I am throwing this out there because the question seems to hard for shiney or boadrdie, or maybe they are just avioding answering the question because they know the examples boardie provided are all wrong and his argument is invalid. Anyone what is the defination of a mass shooting?
     
  8. Newtosilver

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    So you support a person with dementia who wanders onto a property being shot if the homeowner is just defending their property? People can be shot for stealing a mango off a tree? If a drunk stumbles onto your property the property owner should be able to shoot them? If a child tries to take a cake off a window sill the owner should be able to shoot them? A homeless person tries to sleep in your garden shed you should be able to shoot them? Seems perfectly reasonable to me.
     
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    Tax, taking money of me that I earned thru my labour or skill and giving it to someone else ,that is theft and makes me a slave
     
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    Every situation is different if there is no threat to life or property simply escort them off your property however as rough as you like.
    Remember its your property permission is needed to enter
     
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    I know this is stupid but go and look up the meaning of the words tax, theft and slave in the dictionary.
     
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  13. Newtosilver

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    Should you be able to shoot them in the examples I gave? If people do should they be charged with murder? Just curious on what you think.
     
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    Are you coosing to be a slave in Australia? You could move to a country with no effective govt like some shit hole in Africa? You could be free but you would not have paved roads, electricity, free healthcare, a decent education for your kids etc. Things your taxes pay for.
     
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    Got it from:

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    Anyone what is the definition of a mass shooting?
     
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    http://davidleyonhjelm.com.au/the-truth-about-australias-gun-control-experiment/

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    A claim you will often hear is that there have been no mass shootings since 1996, from which anti-gun lobbyists conclude that Australia's gun laws have stopped mass shootings. But this is a half-truth. The full truth is that Australia's close neighbour New Zealand a country very similar to Australia in history, culture, and economic trends has experienced an almost identical time period with no mass shooting events despite the ongoing widespread availability of the types of firearms Australia banned.

    The absence of mass shootings in New Zealand despite having semi- automatic firearms does not seem to be a product of any pre-existing differences between the two countries. Studies taking into account the different numbers of people have found that mass shootings before 1996/1997 occurred at a comparable rate between countries. The inescapable conclusion is that something other than gun laws is likely to be driving the merciful absence of mass shooting events in both countries.
    ...
     
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    Yes if there if any threat to you or your family or your property , if you think or know there is no threat no need to use maximum violence, I don't support anyone getting killed for a simple mistake, but if they are on your property the onus is on them. no need ever kill kids , a foot up the arse will do. unless the kid is a lot bigger than you obviously violent and you were not sure a foot up the arse would do.

    As I say to anyone that wants to steal of me (sheriff or any one else ) I am prepared to die for my property how about you
     
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    No longer a slave, am master of my own destiny, have been since I semi-retired at 36.
    Fully retired now for the umpteenth time at 50

    Edit to add.
    Why the fck would I move im an Australian Australian no place like home . the socialists f$cked ithe c&ntry not me
     

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