Sad sad story of poor kids versus the rich in NYC.

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  1. TheEnd

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    Yes I saw that. Tragically the poor are getting poorer and the gulf is getting wider between the haves and the have-nots. That cannot bode well for the future.
     
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    So a question ? Should America keep accepting refugees and illegal immigrants and continue to support them or look after it's own first ?

    Given we often follow or lag behind socio economic conditions/trends in America should we look after our own now or wait until we suffer the same sort of circumstances ?
     
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    If you take the emotion out of the story, there are plenty of solutions that come to mind. Do away with shelters, it creates the vacuum for the destitute. Take the kids away from the parents if the parents can't manage them. Send them to sunny California so they can enjoy their time in the open. Forced abortion or adoption for anyone on the poverty line. Toughen the system up, no more soft options. There that takes care of the bludgers, next we tackle mental health. No legalisation of drugs first, biggest kick start for derangement. Sterilisation of all certified patients, male and female. Create a support network for both needy and psychotic in country towns, payed for by the bleeding hearts.

    Finally, karma should be done away with.
     
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    Ye good ideas there....Surely the USG does'nt want any more poor kids being born at the moment they already have 300 Million people.
     
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    OT, but I would not live in NYC without a gift cheque for a Million(+) dollars!

    DUMP! or at least most of it!
     
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    Sounds like the making of a stolen generation Sammy...

    Not having emotion in process causes major oversights and that idea is just riddled with them.
     
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    Who owns the children? Because you introduce them into a life of pain, despair and destitution, does that give you the right to perpetuate the horror?
     
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    Fact is they should'nt be born in the first place......Maybe time for some birth control? Thank god I only have one son......Anymore would just be out of the question.
     
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    Owns?.... its certainly not the state! Thats for sure.

    I just cant believe those opinions are out there? Forced sterilisation.... really!?

    In that world you described, no one could be afforded a second chance.
     
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    AFAIK, Something to do with having more kids means more government money?


    OC
     
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    Bingo
    about 20 years ago I worked with a bloke who had 6 kids , he hadn't worked for 10 years
    With overtime he still couldn't match the centrelink payments & they were better of financially with him not working :mad:

    he quit after 2 weeks & went back on the dole :rolleyes:
     
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    I understand this happens, but removing this 'incentive' would be a far more humane way to deal with the issue.

    I just always become worried when solutions are dealt out from ivory towers, especially the kind thatstart with "If you take the emotion out of the story..."


    Just my opinion.
     
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    I knew a family circa 23 years ago, who had 12 children. The monthly family allowance from the government was, if I recall correctly $2400. The husband was also a senior manager in a company and was making reasonable money.

    To put that in perspective, my annual salary at the time was circa $30,000 and I had what could be perceived as an above average salary.
     
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    When our first child was born 1961, we got FIFTY CENTS a week as 'Child Endowment'.

    OC
     
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    Yep, no second chance at perpetuating the horror.
     
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    Na I'm going to stay out of this one
     
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    And we young ones got free milk at morning playtime, cool and unhomogenised from the local dairy.
     
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    Now. I believe this is an excellent idea, kids in school should get a free milk and a bit of fruit or something. These types of programs would benefit families and the kidlets.

    I am a HUGE believer everyone should get a feed and a bed, if I ever see anyone who looks down and out I will offer them food and if they accept I will go to a shop buy it and go back and give it to them.

    Everyone deserves a decent feed, if people are going hungry in Australia we are in trouble.

    I am a huge believer kids need to be looked after, as adults they rely upon us and we have a responsibility to look after them.
     
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    You do realise that this analogy doesn't even make sense. The primitive state of man is like the animals - nothing. Any conditions that move man beyond this is what we call "wealth". The absence of a concentration of wealth isn't the same wealth smeared around for everybody it's nothing for anybody - back to Hobbes' description of the life of man being "solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short". First you need to explain how wealth is created before you can comment on its distribution.
     

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