Russian opposition leader shot down near Kremlin

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  1. Oldsoul

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    And right on queue Putin re-emerges after decorating those connected with this murder and then have a little rest.

    "Putin gives state medal to Chechnya leader who praised Nemtsov suspect"
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...chnya-leader-who-praised-Nemtsov-suspect.html
    How very North Korean

    Vladimir Putin missing: Russian President refuses to comment on 10-day disappearing act 'it would be boring without gossip'
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ublic-for-first-time-in-11-days-10110525.html

     
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    Triple post of repeated info full of self quotes... Who's payroll are you on Oldsoul?
     
  3. Oldsoul

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    No ones. I view putin as the foremost example of fascism in the world the kremin agitprop dump sites like globalresearch and zerohedge along with the trolling of English language newspaper forums by morons with poor English all cheering putin at every murder convinced me of it. It's not surprising a putin supporter can't understand how anyone could see though putins half assed north Korean PR mystery disappearing act. The xenophobia, homophobia, militarism, single 'great' leader, corruption, propaganda and of course murder of journalists, human rights workers, political opponents,actors, solicitors etc by putins kgb/fsb state are repugnant to any thinking individual.

    However many of putins internet supporters are apparently paid to troll....


    Russia This Week: The Kremlin's Growing Army of Internet Trolls
    http://www.interpretermag.com/russia-this-week-the-kremlins-growing-army-of-internet-trolls/


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    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSZZa125nZA[/youtube]
     
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  5. Oldsoul

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    Would that be the idiot who has nothing to say except 'the west is evil', 'putin is great' when presented with a long list of political murders under putin in Russia?


    "The Menace of Unreality: How the Kremlin Weaponizes Information, Culture and Money "
    http://www.interpretermag.com/the-m...lin-weaponizes-information-culture-and-money/

    "Russia combines Soviet-era "whataboutism" and Chekist "active measures" with a wised-up, post-modern smirk that says that everything is a sham. Where the Soviets once co-opted and repurposed concepts such as "democracy," "human rights" and "sovereignty" to mask their opposites, the Putinists use them playfully to suggest that not even the West really believes in them. Gitmo, Iraq, Ferguson, BP, Jobbik, Schrder all liberalism is cant, and anyone can be bought.

    A mafia state as conceived by an advertising executive is arguably more dangerous than a communist superpower because ideology is no longer the wardrobe of politics but rather an interchangeable and contradictory set of accessories. "Let your words speak not through their meanings," wrote Czeslaw Milosz in his poem "Child of Europe", "But through them against whom they are used."

    How does one fight a system that embraces Tupac and Instagram but compares Obama to a monkey and deems the Internet a CIA invention? That censors online information but provides a happy platform to the founder of WikiLeaks, a self-styled purveyor of total "transparency"? That purports to disdain corporate greed and celebrates Occupy Wall Street while presiding over an economy as corrupt as Nigeria's? That casts an Anschluss of a neighboring country using the grammar of both blood-and-soil nationalism and anti-fascism? This is why American social reactionaries, Australian anarchists, British anti-imperialists and Hungarian neo-Nazis all find so much to favor in the application of Putinism, at home and abroad. Putinism is whatever they want it to be.
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    "Executive Summary

    The Kremlin Tool Kit

    The Kremlin exploits the idea of freedom of information to inject disinformation into society. The effect is not to persuade (as in classic public diplomacy) or earn credibility but to sow confusion via conspiracy theories and proliferate falsehoods.

    The West's acquiescence to sheltering corrupt Russian money demoralizes the Russian opposition while making the West more dependent on the Kremlin.

    Unlike in the Cold War, when Soviets largely supported leftist groups, a fluid approach to ideology now allows the Kremlin to simultaneously back far-left and far-right movements, greens, anti-globalists and financial elites. The aim is to exacerbate divides and create an echo chamber of Kremlin support.

    The Kremlin exploits the openness of liberal democracies to use the Orthodox Church and expatriate NGOs to further aggressive foreign policy goals.

    There is an attempt to co-opt parts of the expert community in the West via such bodies as the Valdai Forum, which critics accuse of swapping access for acquiescence. Other senior Western experts are given positions in Russian companies and become de facto communications representatives of the Kremlin.

    Financial PR firms and hired influencers help the Kremlin's cause by arguing that "finance and politics should be kept separate." But whereas the liberal idea of globalization sees money as politically neutral, with global commerce leading to peace and interdependence, the Kremlin uses the openness of global markets as an opportunity to employ money, commerce and energy as foreign policy weapons.

    The Kremlin is increasing its "information war" budget. RT, which includes multilingual rolling news, a wire service and radio channels, has an estimated budget of over $300 million, set to increase by 41% to include German- and French- language channels. There is increasing use of social media to spread disinformation and trolls to attack publications and personalities.


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    Daughter of Boris Nemtsov Says Putin Bears Political Blame for His Murder
    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/...rs-political-blame-for-his-murder/517358.html


    Boris Nemtsov murder: Putin 'politically responsible' daughter
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ically-responsible-for-boris-nemtsov-daughter

    "She said that her father was the most prominent critic of Putin, and that his murder "beheaded" Russia's political opposition. "Everybody is frightened," she said.

    "Now we do not have any other figure so powerful with so much expertise and experience to confront officials," said Nemtsova, a Moscow-based stock market analyst and television presenter.

    She said that Russian investigators have not contacted her because they are "not interested in an independent investigation."

    Her father, shot dead just steps from the Kremlin two weeks ago at the age of 55, was a former prime minister and an outspoken leader of the country's fragmented opposition.

    Nemtsova told the BBC that when she found out about her father's death, she couldn't believe it. "I still can't believe it," she said.

    She said that she had never considered herself a political activist, but that after her comments on the murder the government could regard her as such. She added: "They have killed my father. I cannot keep silent." At the time of his death, Nemtsov was working on a report detailing Russian military actions in Ukraine, which she said they had discussed.

    "Officially, technically, Russian troops are not involved in the military conflict in Ukraine, but what they actually do is that these soldiers resign from the army and then they go there by order," she said, according to comments transcribed by British newspaper The Guardian.
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    smk762 Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Recon it's about time we lock this one....
     
  8. Oldsoul

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    Do you think the Moscow apartment bombings are like Putins 'Burning the Reichstag'....not very original for such a genius?

    Do you like books?

    How about

    The Moscow Bombings of September 1999: Examinations of Russian Terrorist Attacks at the Onset of Vladimir Putin's Rule (Soviet and Post-Soviet Politics and Society, Vol. 110) Paperback February 1, 2014
    http://www.amazon.com/The-Moscow-Bombings-September-1999/dp/3838203887

    "The five chapters contained in this volume focus on the complex and tumultuous events occurring in Russia during the five months from May through September 1999. They sparked the Russian invasion of Chechnya on 1 October and vaulted a previously unknown former Kgb agent into the post of Russian prime minister and, ultimately, president. "


    or
    http://books.simonandschuster.com/Putins-Kleptocracy/Karen-Dawisha/9781476795195


    Putin's Kleptocracy Who Owns Russia? Karen Dawisha

    "
    Russian scholar Dawisha describes and exposes the origins of Putin's kleptocratic regime. She presents extensive new evidence about the Putin circle's use of public positions for personal gain even before Putin became president in 2000. She documents the establishment of Bank Rossiya, now sanctioned by the US; the rise of the Ozero cooperative, founded by Putin and others who are now subject to visa bans and asset freezes; the links between Putin, Petromed, and "Putin's Palace" near Sochi; and the role of security officials from Putin's KGB days in Leningrad and Dresden, many of whom have maintained their contacts with Russian organized crime"


    Garry Kasparov: I Was Crying During the Boris Nemtsov Funeral

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ9_9cdDyfo[/youtube]
     
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    +1 This.

    And there's plenty of idiots who'll accept it without question too (as we see in this thread, the useful idiots have stepped up to the base).
     
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    If you are trying to say that there are a number of people who are shaped by kremlin propaganda based on lies then I agree.

    If you subscribe to a worldview or take on Russia politics based on kremlin agitprop dump sites and channels like zerohedge and sites reposting from globalresearch.ca or other sites that operate under the guise alternative...including the US ones you need to pick up a few researched books and studies. As a silver buyer you may ponder why so many were involved in pumping silver in particular. Those who rely on Russian state language media and social networking come across as brainwashed.

    For a community with such an admirable suspicion of central banks and market makers and regional political spindoctors it really is astounding how an institution like the kremlin can be upheld as some sort of sacrosanct institution and putin in particular. In the case of an outright political murder of a leading Russian politician it is even more amazing. Such kremin sites were immediately identifiable by attempting the ludicrous synchronised conspiracy that it was carried out by the CIA when the dead mans colleagues, mother and daughter(who the investigation did not speak to) all attribute it to Putin.....especially given the incredible incidence of political murder in Russia under putin.........the same kremlin charade was run when the airliner was shot down. Open your eyes to what you are reading and ultimately who wrote it.

    Then again were more people taken in my Nazi propaganda and Stalins efforts in the 30s.........

    I think it's quite amusing that ultimately most tin foil hats were hand forged in the kremlin.

    Fox and RT use the same bias to opinion Vs fact if any content analysis is applied and both are jokes. The kremlin conspiracy sites have a toxic edge of distrust, paranoia and doomerism though and the racism, homophobia and anti-Semitic themes are just ugly..with the Ukraine stuff just shrill jingoism and anti-western noise and almost incomprehensibly ultra-nationalist.
     
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    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSZZa125nZA[/youtube]
    "There are paramilitary militias, Goebbels-style propaganda and armaments. There is one leader and one party. Russia is becoming a fascist countryat least that's what Boris Nemtsov told me a few hours before he was gunned down on Friday in central Moscow. His death came just two days before he was to speak at a major anti-government rally."

    http://www.newsweek.com/2015/03/13/final-interview-boris-nemtsov-310392.html
     
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    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9cRoXgawVA[/youtube]



    "The documents show instructions provided to the commenters that detail the workload expected of them. On an average working day, the Russians are to post on news articles 50 times. Each blogger is to maintain six Facebook accounts publishing at least three posts a day and discussing the news in groups at least twice a day. By the end of the first month, they are expected to have won 500 subscribers and get at least five posts on each item a day. On Twitter, the bloggers are expected to manage 10 accounts with up to 2,000 followers and tweet 50 times a day. "

    http://toinformistoinfluence.com/20...-machine-templates-guidelines-and-paid-posts/

     
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    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO3raRXjHC4[/youtube]
    Boris Nemtsov - rigged elections in Russia.

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B57oDYOJVMM[/youtube]
    Nemtsov gives impassioned anti Putin speech before death.
     
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    Putin and Kim Jong Il
    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCDBSw1fajw[/youtube]


    The Gulag Lives On - Russia
    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vFbWXVTBU0[/youtube]

    A Final Interview With Boris Nemtsov
    http://www.newsweek.com/2015/03/13/final-interview-boris-nemtsov-310392.html

    "Putin] programmed my countrymen to hate strangers. He persuaded them that we need to rebuild the former Soviet order, and that the position of Russia in the world depends entirely on how much the world is afraid of us. He managed to do all these things with Goebbels-style propaganda. If we are talking about the responsibility for spilling both Russian and Ukrainian blood, it lies not only with Putin, but also with such gentlemen as Konstantin Ernst [director general of Channel One] or Dmitry Kiselyov [head of the new, Russian-government-owned news agency Rossiya Segodnya]. They operate in accordance with the simple principles of Joseph Goebbels: Play on the emotions; the bigger the lie, the better; lies should be repeated many times. This propaganda is directed to the simple men; there is no room for any questions, nuances. Unfortunately, it works. The hysteria reached unprecedented levels, hence the high level of support for Putin. Therefore, we need to work as quickly as possible to show the Russians that there is an alternative, that Putin's policy leads to degradation and a suicide of the state. There is less and less time to wake up."
     
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    Come on, this is really pathetic. Posting same videos and links over and over again.

    Few days ago I was reading how people paid by Russian government are destroying debates all over the internet.

    I guess Rottensoul is member of the "opposite" site.

    I'm interested how old are you. If you are more than 20 years old, I'm seriously concerned about your mental health...
     
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    But you know all about posting shrill pro kremlin garbage.....I'm flattered by the notion that you think I am paid and not just sick to the back teeth of putinista trolls and their lying propaganda do you normally recommend individuals who think putin is a fascist to mental institutions? - How quaint. Compulsory psychiatric treatment if you don't love the little tsar putin.




    Boris Nemtsov gives his last ever interview before he was shot
    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSZZa125nZA[/youtube]
     
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    I have this strange feeling of deja vu
     

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