Ron Paul's "Free market" Hypocrisy

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  1. fishball

    fishball New Member Silver Stacker

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    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/02/ron-paul-feuding-his-fans/61970/

    What a hypocrite.

    All for the 'free market' until it doesn't work in their favor.

    Much like Ayn Rand's hypocrisy in her criticism of social security programs is enslaving oneself and then going onwards to take social security.
     
  2. vanilla

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    The internet domain name system is a monopoly governed by an unelected UN agency. There is no free market in domain names. The only way to resolve an issue is to petition that UN body.

    If someone is against government courts, does then using a government court to stop their neighbour from playing loud music at night make them a hypocrite? If Ron Paul has a grievance with a domain name, somehow petitioning the body that governs them is hypocritical?

    Are the Silver Stacker community hypocrites because they work and use Australian dollars?

    Except that when you live in an immoral system, and pay taxes into an immoral system, it's not immoral to engage honestly in any entitlement it offers.

    The fact you would bring up the Rand "hypocrisy" shows the basic failures in your reasoning.
     
  3. fishball

    fishball New Member Silver Stacker

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    I knew I could rile up the Ron Paul fanbois. Their leader can do no wrong. Hah.

    Bullshit. Ron Paul was offered a price of $250k which he was not willing to take. How is that not the free market at work?

    Strawman argument. Nobody is harassing Ron Paul here.

    His grievance is that the price isn't what he wants it to be (probably he wants it to be $0; at least not $250k). Given how he constantly harps on about the free market, yes this is hypocritical. Complaining to a governing body (which should've been ICANN not the UN, the UN doesn't control the internet) because he couldn't get his price is counter intuitive to a free market.

    Because Silver Stacker community is one monolithic structure with everyone acting in resonance. Yeah nah, see renovator & auspm.

    I think I hit a nerve.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isabel_Paterson

    Now that's someone who is worth respecting, not some 2-faced mouthpiece tryhard wannabe like Ayn Rand.

    Your fanboy tears, they are tasty.
     
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    wrcmad Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Yes.
     
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    I'm really disappointed by this.
     
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    In RP or fishball ?
     
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    Does anyone know what a 'liberty package' is? Perhaps part of this?

    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2013/02/ron-paul-feuding-his-fans/61970/
     
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    capt.sparrow New Member

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    Your logic is pathetic. You carrying some sort of chip on your shoulder maybe? perhaps born with a slightly darker tan than you would've preferred? Did the kids at school tease you?? :lol:
     
  10. fishball

    fishball New Member Silver Stacker

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    He wouldn't be disappointed by me reno lol. He has no expectations of me :lol:.

    Totally. All of my 6000+ posts are about Ron Paul and Ayn Rand.

    KEEP CRYING, YOUR TEARS ARE SO SWEET.
     
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    hawkeye New Member Silver Stacker

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    Pretty careless of him not to get it back before he went on his first run. Not like he wasn't aware of the internet. It's hypocrisy, you can't complain now someone has built a business around it and wants to sell it. 250K was probably quite reasonable, he should have just coughed it up. It would be probably be much less hassle in the long run.
     
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    Doesn't sound that much like a free market.

    I can't imagine there would be much outside of Ron Paul who would want to buy the site.

    Sure if it was XXX.com then I can imagine the free market would push the prices up quite high, way over 250K. But at auction I don't think RonPaul.com would get up to 250k.

    Maybe the mailing list of people who like Ron Paul could be worth some money to someone, but probably not to Ron Paul now he is retired. I wouldn't want to pay 250k for a worthless list of names if all I wanted was a website with my name on it.

    He probably doesn't even want a website with his name on it, probably just wants to stop cybersquatters posting up things in his name.
     
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    fishball New Member Silver Stacker

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    I thought it was cybersquatting too at first but it looks to be a legitimate fan-site with a huge userbase.
     
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    So this was your solution to the question, gee I see exactly who you are now.

    You don't offer any reason why, just a personal attack.

    Where as FB had clearly outlined his view, to which sounds fair and reasonable. If you want any credibility at all, this will certainly not get you any.
     
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    This is why people should not be idolised. Ideas and facts and evidence matter, not so much the imperfect people, as we all are, who communicate them. People make mistakes. No-one should be free of criticism as long as it is fair. And criticism of an individual does not automatically void all the things they have said.
     
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    I agree with you 100% and I still personally agree with a lot of what Ron Paul has said in the past.... not al of it, just some of it. He seems alright and by far was the best of a bad mob, but he is human and not infallible.

    I dont even disagree with the action he is taking. Does it fit with his principles? No. Would I do the same if put in his situation? Hell yes.
     
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    Well said Hawkeye, if this is true, then I am disappointed in him. The message he was sending for the role of government was a sound one though.

    I wouldn't be surprised if he won the case and used it as a case against the UN.... IE this could be a big stunt between RP and the "unknown" owner of the domain name. If he wins he could say, "see I told you so, the fact that I won is rediculous and is a perfect reason why the UN should not be involved".

    Not holding my breath though.
     
  18. Big A.D.

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    Bollocks.

    The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) is the responsible agency for issuing domain names.

    It's a non-profit organisation that was spun off from the United States Department of Commerce in the late 90s. It's based in Los Angeles, California.

    If anyone has a dispute involving the content of a domain name being intellectual property of someone other than the person who registered it, the Uniform Domain Name Dispute Resolution Policy allows for arbitration between the parties to be provided by an ICANN-approved dispute resolution provider. All registrars for gTLDs follow this policy and it forms part of the Terms & Conditions people agree to when they register a domain name.

    One of those providers is the World Intellectual Property Organisation (WIPO), which is a UN agency. There are other dispute resolution provider if you prefer.

    There clearly is a free market for domains because people buy and sell them every day and the only reason that market is able to exist in the first place is because ICANN created a set of standards that everyone agrees to abide by.

    You're welcome to establish your own alternative DNS root and create your own domain names if you like.
     
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    I think it is possible he will come to his senses. It could just be a poorly thought out move. There has been a lot of just criticism, maybe some will reach him.

    The more sensible idea would be for the two of them to get together and see if they can negotiate a deal. That way both parties could put forth their individual concerns. Maybe it's just part of the bargaining process, who knows?

    End of the day it doesn't matter all that much. He's just a guy, albeit a generally decent guy who's written a lot of good stuff imo.
     

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