Revenge of the 1%: Stiffing waiters

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  1. Nugget

    Nugget Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    As I understand it, tips are part of service industry workers wages. I don't agree with it but it appears to be a US custom. My view is that the employer should pay a liveable wage







    Far more comments at this link ;)

     
  2. mmm....shiney!

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    I've never seen tips mentioned in the Award.
     
  3. Nugget

    Nugget Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    You've read the US Award? For every US state?




    EDIT to add


    Here's a comment I read. I can't vouch for it's accuracy though


     
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    The workers make more monies from the tips than their own wages.
     
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    ^ That sucks ass if true.
     
  6. mmm....shiney!

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    @nugget I read it that you were comparing Oz with the US, my fault, Im only talking from an Oz Award viewpoint
     
  7. DanDee

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    On the subject of tips,
    Three guys go out for a meal.
    The waiter comes over after they have eaten and says, 'that'll be 30 dollars "
    The three guys chuck in ten bucks each. No problem. too easy.
    The waiter comes back and and says "sorry, I made a mistake, the bill is only 25 dollars" and puts five one dollar coins on the table.
    Each of the three guys takes one dollar, and they leave two dollars for the waiter.
    Each guy has one dollar change from their ten, so each paid nine dollars for the meal.
    The waiter scores two dollars.
    Three nines are twenty seven, plus two dollars for the waiter equals one twenty nine dollars.
    Where's the other dollar?
     
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    Thats because their basic wages are sooooo shite !
     
  9. bordsilver

    bordsilver Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    When it originated it was incentive and was good. Once it became institutionalised (and assumed for tax if Nuggets reference is true) it became crap.
     
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    bordsilver Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    This Q was done only a month or two ago.
     
  11. Clawhammer

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    When the US recently rose the base level of minimum wage it meant that the sole factory (a fish processing plant) that provided employment to many inhabitants of American Samoa had to close.

    The plant couldn't recoupe the new higher wage costs of minimum wage from it's product sales. So, the employees are now on welfare and the locals have to buy imported Tuna. :/
     
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    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-qV9wVGb38[/youtube]
     
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    ok never saw it in the other thread so...

    three nines are twenty seven, minus 2 dollars for the waiter equals 25 dollars, which was the bill they paid
     
  14. Dogmatix

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    ^ that's a pretty good video I think, it explains the problem with 'mandatory' (or perceived mandatory) tipping

    You know a system is broken somewhere when tips are required and are also taxed.

    IMO good service should be part of the job, and the notion of tipping regardless of service level is absurd. For me, tipping is a reward for someone going that extra mile to provide service beyond the expected level.
     
  15. Dogmatix

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    You're right, but I don't think that explains the extra dollar.

    Basically the bill per person was $25 / 3 = $8.33, but they put in $10 each. So the change per person should have been $1.66, but they only took $1 change each.

    The remaining $0.66 x 3 = $2 went to the waiter.

    The bolded part is where the answer is.
     
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    $0.66X3 =$2 i think your calculator is broken :p:
     
  17. Dogmatix

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    May the tax man be kind to you reno... I sense an audit coming.
     
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    Hes welcome anytime i might buy him a beer .when he checks it out he will see 3X66 =198. I think your gonna be the one with a problem with those maths .... why are you going to call him ? your true colours are showing now
     
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    25 dollars = meal
    3 dollars to the dudes
    2 dollars to the waiter

    =30 dollars
     
  20. Dogmatix

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    Forgot i was dealing with the master of pedantry.

    Would you feel better if I said 0.66 'repeater'?

    Seriously...

    Edit: My apologies btw, I have zero intention of calling an auditor (that's absurd). I meant that if your maths is so bad you will no doubt get an audit due to incompetence. I had naively dismissed the idea of pedantry on your part.
     

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