Racehorse owning

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  1. mmm....shiney!

    mmm....shiney! Administrator Staff Member Silver Stacker

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    The weather.

    Gollan's preference is Ipswich R3. I've taken her at $2.30 which I think is overs. But, according to "The Final Gallop" he's still unsure of his decision, and he sent us a message saying he'll let us know of his decision. If she runs in Brisbane on Saturday she's not ready to beat La Palmier in the last at Eagle Farm according to Gollan.
     
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    5 horse field now. :eek:

    Track is a Heavy 8.

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    The $2.30 I got for her yesterday is going to be masticated.
     
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    Not the same horse going around any more :(
     
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    A nice, unexpected? win.
     
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    I’m on my annual golf trip so I haven’t seen the race yet, mates are pretty happy though.

    Maybe unexpected maybe not, her past couple of performances have been below par considering she’s rated at group standard previously.

    I’ll have a look at the replay later tonight and post my thoughts
     
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    Pretty solid performance, she’s just very good out of the gates so the rest just have to run her down.

    will be interesting to see how she goes up next.
     
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    Gold Coast race 8 Saturday on a Heavy 9 with more rain predicted before race day and drawn barrier 15. There’s not a planet in the universe where 21 runners start on a bog track so she won’t jump from 15 Ideally 3 - 7 would be nice but I don’t think we’ll get that close. Just don’t want to be on the fence in running coz it’ll be shit. Gollan has a good strike rate at the GC and Jim Byrne is back on board. I’m not putting any money on her until the field is known as deductions are going to make a mess of the odds. Biggest query will be whether she has the 1200m in her, track shouldn’t be a problem as long as she isn’t stuck in traffic and getting mud flung into her face. Ideally jump quickly, race in the 3rd lane or thereabouts and see how she goes. Watch thefinalgallop tomorrow on Vimeo for the trainer’s thoughts. This is her toughest race.
     
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    I part own a couple of 2yo horses about to hit the track.
    Currently trialling, trained by Adam Trinder.
    Muscle Up
    Shakeeda
    Will post up if I think they are a chance.
     
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    Got an update from Gollan, he confirmed my views, that she's the fastest horse in the field and will have no trouble getting through the ground. I'm hoping he's wrong with the distance query, I think she can see the final 100m out if she replicates her previous wins a couple of campaigns back
     
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    The Eureka Stud Classic has been tacked on to this Saturday's meet at Doomben, so it's a whopping 10 race card on a rain affected surface. They're supposed to be racing tomorrow there and the track is a Heavy 10, the rail is out 8m but that shouldn't affect Saturday's meeting too much.

    Ok, pretty much the same noms as last time so the speed won't be much different, the rail is only out 2m. The general consensus is that Doomben favours leaders and on pace runners as it's a tight turning course, in the normal course of things inside runners also have an advantage, and the better going is closer to the fence in bad weather, but it could also get chopped up.

    So, assuming the trainer's thoughts re the 1200m haven't changed, ideally we'd like to be drawn closer than the 15 she drew at the Gold Coast, 3 - 6 would be nice to give the jock the option to find the best ground, whether that on the rail or further out. She jumps and leads as they turn into the straight and has enough kick in her to beat off the challengers that are probably going to get closer to her as the line draws near, as long as they can get through the ground of course. They'll need to run faster than her in the final 200m because I think they'll be giving her a head start. She's had 4 starts at Doomben, won 3 and placed once. We should know the barriers tomorrow.
     
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    update on "all that Sass" - she has been sold giving owners a woeful return. Invested what we got back into 2 shares in TRL Qld Rogues.
     
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    Just an update for those interested.

    Lyrical Girl was retired from racing a couple of months ago because of a recurring injury she sustained as a 2yo one night in a yard when she was spooked and ran through some fences. She was sold to stud as a broodmare but unfortunately had to be euthanised during the week because she contracted an infection in her hind leg that wasn't responding to treatment and was causing her condition to deteriorate badly.

    Sad news for connections both past and present.

    She had 19 starts for 7 wins and 7 places.
     
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    Are you open to sharing your ROI?
     
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    mmm....shiney! Administrator Staff Member Silver Stacker

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    I had 1 share out of 1000. She cost $275 000 to purchase as a yearling and fees were $15 000 per month for education, training, vet, feeding, insurance, jockey/horse welfare etc.

    So it cost me $275 upfront and ongoing fees were $15/month. I didn't keep exact figures because it was a hobby but assuming we held her for 5 years total fees would have been about $900 + $250 = $1150. Without taking into consideration the cut from trainers, jockeys etc from prizemoney, she won $220 000 which means I got about $220 back so all up a loss of about $955.

    If I was the sole owner I would be down about $955 000. Reminds me of the old "How to make a small fortune? Start with a large fortune..." quote. ;)

    Only 15% of horses ever make a profit for their owner, 15% maybe break even and most never win a race.
     
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    $1000 for a hobby of five years is quite cheap
     
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    74% Podium finishes is outstanding! Well done...but sorry for your loss.

    We have bought 10% of a very nice filly out of "Shooting to Win" from last years Magic Millions. She is with David Murphy and looks to be set for next Feb. No racing name yet...stable name is Lucy.
     
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    @GF, thanks mate, keep us posted on her progress.
     

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