[POLL]Bring it On, Same Sex Marriage result by xmas

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Do you Support Changing the marrage act in support of same sex couples.

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. You and shiney are both very careless.
    Pay attention kids, it's not that hard!
    Now go read it again, slowly and carefully.

    Aww Shiney, you're a tragedy of mistakes.
    I'm playing semantics because I can, unlike you.
     
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  2. mmm....shiney!

    mmm....shiney! Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    You are just playing semantics.

    Marriage is the union of a couple, not individuals. Just because it is available to all men and women in Australian does not mean it is permissible for all couples to have legally recognised marriages.
     
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    I was always taught it was polite to ask people how they would like to be referred to e.g. Mrs/Ms/Miss or "Bob" rather than Robert.

    If it's acceptable to ask, say, a married woman what her surname is in case she took her husband's name when they married, is it that much of a big deal to ask someone if they prefer Robert to Roberta? If they don't have a particular gender they always identify as, it should be pretty obvious what kind of "gender mood" they're in: wearing a cocktail dress and high heels is a pretty good clue they're having a "Roberta" kind of day.

    Personally, I don't have a problem going over to a friend's place for a party or BBQ or whatever and being confronted with only one toilet that both men and women use. Where I live at least, there are plenty of small bars and cafes that only have unisex toilets (and they tend to be in a much nicer state than venues with separate facilities. Maybe people are secretly out to impress others with their fantastic aim and cleanliness?). Then again, I don't really think about going to the toilet as a social experience so who's got what bits doesn't really bother me.

    If there is a "trans agenda", isn't it really just about having a bit more respect and not making assumptions about people?
     
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    You are playing semantics because your fallacious reasoning has been found wanting, so you resort to word play and ad hominem.
     
  5. Get over it princess, I was only joking.
    Just giving the kitten enough string to show the blatant hypocrisy
     
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    l***g and JulieW, you may be interested in the companion thread to my Logical Fallacies thread - Are you suffering from cognitive bias?
     
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    mmm....shiney! Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    But buttercup, I thought you were ignoring me?

    Again.
     
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    JOHNLGALT Well-Known Member

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    "There is nothing to be gay about according to the evidence. Quite like calling people suffering from a depressive disorder merry.

    Then using words like "queer" while promoting themselves as normal, healthy minded people."


    I think I can be expected to receive a chastisement for the improper use of the Quote function by my SNIPER Papperazzi lol.

    p.s. It's good to know I have a following, more laughs. (mostly Well Known members who want to harrass, good job they are on my NO-SEE list).


    There is a group of young, slim, gay, blokes (I use that word advisadly, who hold a function in a town near me annually). (this weekend).


    They don't seem to harm anyone @ the Function room, but they do steam up the windows & I can't see much, LOLOL.


    So much to work with, so little time.

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  9. And these heterophobic arguments are completely irrelevant as the fact remains marriage is defined as a celebration of the union of a man and a woman in matrimony.
    Marriage law is not applied differently to Homosexual couples, it is not applicable to them at all.
    So called homosexual couples do not comply with the current definition of this long established tradition or with the requirements of the marriage act and have no moral or legal rights to this institution whatsoever.
    Any Australian that wants to be legally married must comply with the marriage act to do so.
    No alleged discrimination or any other bullcrap needed.
    Comply with the law and you have equal and fair access to the various legal institutions.
    See? Quite simple really so quit telling every one you are special people who are above the law and can do what ever the hell you please because it tends to piss people right off.
     
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    I'd like to, but I just want to know whether you are going to get your 15,000 messages posted before XMAS ??????
     
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    Can you just keep rambling on in your Inimitable way, while racking up hundreds, or even thousands of posts, please?
    No disrespect here, - you may be lonely - as we all are at times - even ME LOLOL. _JLG.
     
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    Should have gone here ... anyway Shiney... it's here now.

    All the best from JOHNLGALT. (not my real name either) CHEERS MATE.

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    What the f' are you talking about?

    Here in the US, they are pushing so that someone who is "trans", can use the bathroom of their choice. We aren't talking about single person bathrooms, we are talking about guys being able to use ladies' locker rooms and bathrooms (ones that multiple folks go into at once). This is also being attempted in grade schools and high schools, etc.

    In once instance I can recall, the schools offered the "trans" kid the use of a single person bathroom, and the kid's parents objected. They wanted little Johnny to be called Sally and use the same bathroom as the other girls, because girls bond in the bathroom. I am paraphrasing a bit, but that was the argument the kid's agenda driven parents argued at court.

    Your agenda would be fine if it didn't invade other folks' privacy and rights- but unfortunately it does. Most women here don't want males using the same restroom while they are in there. Maybe in your country the ladies don't mind this, but the ones I've spoken to here about this issue do mind. And many I've discussed this with (since it was in the news a lot in the past few years) were lefty gals.

    Your analogy of Robert or Bob, or perhaps Miss, Ms or Mrs, is not the same as referring to a male as a female. Like when someone, say Bruce Jenner, walks around pretending to be a woman, but still has a d!ck. And we all have to pretend he is really a woman now because he has a female name, fake t!ts and long hair? It's called make-believe world.

    I would speculate that most kids wanting to be "trans" had some help in making that decision from agenda-driven lefty parents.

    http://www.npr.org/2016/12/17/50375...-finish-paperwork-before-trump-administration

     
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    Take it easy Jim, Down-Under we are not all POOFTERS, Whoops, my bad, (I think you trendies say) LOLOL. _JLG.
     
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    And how long before one of my Daughters has to endure Robert/Roberta in the change rooms or toilets at high school ?

    If under your logic a person with a Penis wishes to identify as a Woman and expects to be acknowledged or even demands to be acknowledged as one , is it not also viable that if they wish to be recognized as Chinese or Pekinese, 5 years old or 75 years old, that they then should be able to do so ? Or a Chair, or a Rock ?

    You see how ludicrous that reads right ?

    Now if some bloke wants to tart himself up and demand that everyone calls him a she in defiance of the laws of nature all well and good for them, but don't expect everyone else to go along with the lie, don't expect me in any case to go Um, yeah ok black is white and up is down....cause it ain't. In all but exceptionally rare cases of Mutation you are born either a Male or a Female full stop! It is either A or B.

    By some sort of twisted post modern science identity politics it is now expected that the 98-99% of the rest of the population who don't have gender identity issues and are not sexually drawn to the same gender must cease and desist all rational thought, throw plain old common sense out the window and go along with the yeah lets all pretend the person in the dress with the Adams apple and the five o'clock shadow is a Miss ?

    Where does it stop ? When do the alphabet brigade say enough is enough ? Anal sex classes in Kindy, ten year old girls demanding they be called Jack and stating that they are 40 years old and are getting married to a Pig ?
    Seriously, if you go down the road of denying the reality of a PENIS & TESTICLES despite all the plastic surgery tits and makeup in the world and the absolute SCIENTIFIC FACT that this in the world of REALITY denotes a MALE of the species then how about we just throw out all other types of science and truth as well.

    The alphabet brigade already have every legal aspect of common law at their disposal, but yet they want to change everybody else's definition of "Marriage" as it now stands and has done for century's, just to make a small minority of a minority justified in their bleating about inequality. And that will be just the beginning, next will come the enforcement protocols to ensure that this minority of the population never have their feelings hurt, are never refused by anybody, and that rather than the exception to traditional, dare I say it "Normal" sexual practices, educational doctrine will also have to be overhauled so that no child is left behind.

    Cultural Marxism at it's finest and the Fabian Agenda at work yet again, these sorts of people will not stop until the country is a former ghost of itself with its culture in the sewer and nation of gimmie gimmies as it's population.
     
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    Damn, you have perfectly described the US as it stands now.

    I imagine many around the world (and some in the US) wonder how someone as abrasive and "non-presidential" as Trump could have won, look no further.

    It is probably too late to stop it (destruction of US society) or revert back, but maybe a pause for now is good enough.
     
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    It's the silent majority Jim, the ones who are funding all this sort of leftist insanity have had nearly just about enough. This attitude will outlive Trump too, as a generation or two of voters are sick to the back teeth with all the twisted and insane diatribe shoved at them from every angle be it the society modelling propaganda we see on the idiot box or hear on the airwaves as "Fake News" or the squirming spineless shit pouring forth from elected officials mouths on both sides of politics every election cycle.

    The average middle of the road person is looking for an answer to just how the Fuck in the world we ended up where we are right now, and there is also a growing revolt underway with the next upcoming generation as well.

    The West has seen nearly it's entire manufacturing industry exported to Asia while at the same time they have imported whole suburbs of enclave minded immigrants, been screwed by the too big to fail banks and then been forced to bail them out, wage freezes while the cost's of everything from medical care to electricity and food skyrocket, and on top of all that we have the ongoing onslaught of the namby pamby snowflake brigade demanding equality for anything and everything with the threat of and actual violence if they don't get their way and all backed by the likes of Hollywood elitist's and a compliant media to boot, shoving it all down our throats and blaming everything from hot weather to hurt feelings down our throats as if the current generation are responsible for all and everybody's suffering over the last two hundred years.

    And of course, now we have the "no feelings left unprotected activists" insisting that calling a rock a rock is somehow bigoted, racist, homophobic, nazi or KKK type behaviour, safe spaces for everybody and check your Gender/Race privilege at the door while we tear down your (our) collective historical culture because Trigglypuff types might get triggered by a statue commemorating an event that was responsible for creating the country you live in.

    We have the same types down here in Aus calling for the removal of Captain Cook statues, as they might be seen as offensive to the Indigenous people of the country and also calling for the moving of Australia day, similar to the 4th of July to another date, as despite no battles or even a single death of any Aboriginal person being recorded on the day Cook planted a flag and took possession of Australia for Great Britain at the time on the 26th of Jan it is Oh so offensive to celebrate your Country as a citizen of it.

    I wouldn't worry too much about the destruction of American society Jim, you lot are resilient and you still have your constitutional rights, 1&2 in particular, and as you said the people voted in Trump right ? Like minded people will only take so much prodding and bullshit before enough is enough and a spark gets lit under their arses, we down here have neither a constitution nor the right to bear arms any more either.

    The video you posted is quite familiar as my partners parents are immigrants to Aus from Sweden and while I have not been there my Missus visited again about four years back with her Mother and two Brothers and we have Family there who live in and close to Örebro, my Mother inlaw grew up and studied nursing there and travels back every couple of years. Swedes don't want to talk about all this, they basically ignore it all or just throw their arms in the air and say well what can one do now ? It is only over the past coulpe of years and the last visit that My MiL realized it is not the Sweden she was born in any more.

    Sweden basically is fooked and it is all self inflicted, not only do they have this top down imposed gender fluid education system from Kindergarten age and Hen as a nationally recognized label, but they also along side this system have Millions of Muslim immigrants and a separate education system teaching those Kids living in Muslim enclaves that Gays etc should be killed and they actually fund all of this with Swedish Tax dollars. If it was a Movie you would never believe the plot lines due to the stupidity of it all, but as with all socialist and leftist ideals quite often reality is stranger than fiction.



    Western society has seen worse Jim, but I do doubt if it has ever seen it from the inside and the top down as we see now ? Christmas trees are now Holiday tree's down here, we have special day's for Muslim women at certain council swimming pools now and no doubt soon we will have special laws enacted for Bakers and Churches as well, along with obligatory social media restrictions on descriptive language and every right for anybody who go's along with the social modelling program and mandatory fines and sentencing terms for those who don't agree with the gaywashing of life as we know it.
     
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    Rule #1 No Poofters
    Rule #2 I don't want to catch anyone....not drinking.
    Rule #3 No Poofters
    Rule #4 There is no rule #4
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  19. It feels, to me, that this is the apogee and the pendulum has just started to reverse.
    History defines the future, when the pendulum gains momentum as it inevitably swings back to the right it will be very nasty.
    The wise should be well prepared for this momentous event.

     
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    I personally always thought the decades long "It's ok to be gay" movement being promoted on TV, shows, movies, celebrities, ect is wrong and should not be allowed to happen on public mainstream places because it sends the wrong message to children that it's ok to be gay when it is clearly not. Being born gay is having a mental disorder to do with ones sexual orientation.

    They do it to feel good about themselves, cause deep down they have issues.

     
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