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  1. ozcopper

    ozcopper Administrator Staff Member

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    I have pulled a couple of Pell threads today. Not because I want to, but there is a court order banning it from being reported in Australia. This is to protect the forum from potential legal issues.

    I totally do not agree with the reporting of this being banned.
     
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    Victoria uses more suppression orders than any other jurisdiction in Australia, with the state accounting for more than half of such orders nationally.

    The wide dissemination of the suppressed information online, however, highlights the challenges of the suppression regime in some high-profile cases of public interest.

    A year-long review of Victoria's 2013 Open Courts Act by retired judge Frank Vincent called into question the function and efficacy of suppression orders in an internet age.
     
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    What about if we only provide links to overseas newspapers such as the Washington Post and America Magazine?
     
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    Those suppression orders are wishful thinking with globalised social media. I've already seen this story on many non-Australian platforms.
     
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    I thought only China has banned certain things, but this is worse than what they have in China !!!
     
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    I am surprised people still seem to give even half a sh*t what lawyers think or say ...
     
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    Most suppression orders are issued in Vic to try and protect the identity of victims, for instance if the case involves members of the same family. That is not the situation here.

    Lawyers for the person with the same surname as mentioned in the thread title have argued for suppression of details to enable a fair and unbiased hearing of charges. There are other unrelated charges that have not yet been dealt with and any breaches of this current suppression order will be used in an attempt to have all of them dismissed or overturned on appeal.
     
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    I for one am glad that suppression orders are still available .
    They are there to protect potentially law abiding citizens from the shit that sticks.
    so in this case it is a high level official of the church, what if it was a claim of pedophilia against
    Gullintanni or SODL?
    Do you think you would ever treat us the same again even if we were found not guilty?
    Even if it was completely proven that we were not guilty?
    Shit sticks guys and i would not wish that upon anyone.

    Of course many people will say if you have nothing to hide BLAH BLAH BLAH, but then the fact of the matter is people are vengeful and do just make shit up to F people over.
    It happens every single day.
    I think we should be happy that suppression orders are available to protect everyone BEFORE they are convicted.
     
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    Australia neck to neck on censorship, for example the only reason Australia banned Huawei is because they wouldn’t share the information unlike Cisco, google, Apple and Microsoft who have backdoors for government agencies
     
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    alor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    for nothing to hide people. you wait until the 3D body scan show every single pores on your skin. body organs etc. then you would have really no place to hide. you are not sheeple that get kick scan and etc
    nobody has right to do such ACT to you.
     
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    I think you're missing the point. They're not covering up the identity of an alleged offender. The jury has already made it decision and it's the result that's being concealed.
     
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    You may recall earlier this year the media blackout over in the UK re the trials of muslim grooming gang/s that Tommy Robinson exposed. These grooming gangs were supplying young children to high profile persons in the UK including past and present politicians and royalty. Did the recent Aussie media blackout ruling/direction possibly come a from higher source who instructed the judge to rule a media blackout for a similair reason as happened in the UK.....to protect some high profile people in Australia from being exposed. We may never know because of this concealment.
     
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    That is why i popped in the GUILTY part.
    But you are right that what i said could be considered off point.
    The fact of the matter FOR ME is that when before the courts we do have the presumption of innocence and no matter what the crime we from heinous to minor we should all be allowed to keep our names out of the press with suppression orders.
    ONCE FOUND GUILTY though all bets are off and open justice dictates everyone has a right to know what our peers have adjudged us guilty of.
     
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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the SilverStackers server domiciled outside of Australia's jurisdiction, hence not subject to the laws of Commonwealth of Australia and/or its constituent states?
     
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    I'm still an Australian citizen though, and a majority of registered users here are Australian - there's other websites with fewer Australian ties that it can be discussed on. I don't need the grief of even being contacted over the issue. This is a precious metals forum.
     
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    Fair call.
     
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    If you thought the admins were being overly cautious here when we wouldn't allow any Pell threads:

    DPP moves to jail dozens of editors, journalists over reports after Pell verdict

    Dozens of Australia's leading media editors and journalists, including staff at The Age, could face prison for contempt of court over allegations they breached a suppression order in reports published after George Pell's conviction on child sex abuse charges.

    Victoria's Director of Public Prosecutions, Kerri Judd, QC, has named 36 organisations and individuals in a motion before the Supreme Court and applied that they be found guilty, convicted and either imprisoned or fined.

    The 36 respondents are:




      • The Herald and Weekly Times Pty Ltd
      • Damon Johnston
      • Charis Chang
      • News Life Media Pty Ltd
      • Queensland Newspapers Pty Ltd
      • Sam Weir
      • The Geelong Advertiser Pty Ltd
      • Andrew Piva
      • Nationwide News Pty Ltd
      • Ben English
      • Lachlan Hastings
      • Advertiser Newspapers Pty Ltd
      • Michael Owen-Brown
      • Fairfax Media Limited
      • The Age Company Pty Ltd
      • Alex Lavelle
      • Ben Woodhead
      • Patrick O'Neil
      • Michael Bachelard
      • Fairfax Media Publications Pty Ltd
      • Lisa Davies
      • Michael Stutchbury
      • Patrick Durkin
      • Danielle Cronin
      • Franziska Rimrod
      • Mamamia.com.au
      • Jessica Chambers
      • Allure Media Pty Ltd
      • Simon Thomsen
      • Macquarie Media Limited
      • Chris Smith
      • Ray Hadley
      • Nine Entertainment Co Pty Ltd
      • Lara Vella
      • Christine Ahern
      • Deborah Knight
    More: https://www.smh.com.au/national/vic...ports-after-pell-verdict-20190326-p517qf.html
     
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