[opinion] 2012 Singapore coin show proof panda

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  1. Thor122

    Thor122 New Member

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    I buy two of each 5 oz and 1 oz silver and i think is better ncs. Because go for my daughters. And i think will go a lot of time to sell. (2 and 4 years old).
     
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    eBay selling at 2000 for 5 oz now ... See who buy .
     
  3. Pandacollector

    Pandacollector Active Member

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    I dropped by PandaAmerica yesterday to check out the new batch of silver medals. Here are photos of differences that I saw in the 5 oz. silver Singapore medals. The originals are on the left:

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    Source: Pandacollector.com

    The reflective spot on the rock by the Great Wall has the appearance of rub, but it's only on the original medals. I believe it's a high spot that was missed in the frosting process. The medals are quite beautiful, I have to add.

    Best wishes,
    Peter Anthony
    http://www.pandacollector.com
     
  4. silverstar1

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    Just curious what you mean by the original medals? Nice pictures by they way and good eye!
     
  5. Pandacollector

    Pandacollector Active Member

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    The die for the 5 oz. size developed a crack after, I think, 225 medals were struck. The Mint halted production and produced a second die that was used for the rest of the run. That caused a delay in shipping the medals, but gave us two new medal varieties.

    Best wishes,
    Peter Anthony
    http://www.pandacollector.com
     
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    comeaux New Member Silver Stacker

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    Info is most appreciated Peter ! :)
     
  7. Lim

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    Thanks for the info .. Too bad mine is already at the dealer shop to be send for conservation and grading so there is no way for me to compare ...
    By the way , i was told that NGC might not grade this medal by the authorise dealer of NGC but they are sending in for me anyway . I will be sad that they will not grade this medal as i send in 3 of them .
    :(
     
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    comeaux New Member Silver Stacker

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    Hello Lim, Yes ... NGC will grade these, there are several on the way right now from Panda America
     
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    comeaux New Member Silver Stacker

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    The first order has arrived very nice design, they are beautiful.

    I was also lucky enough to also be one of the first to request the vintage Panda America posters as well, totally cool and definitely will frame it and hand in my office !

    thor122 your order should be here in two days as it has also shipped ! :)

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    More differences spotted:
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    Based on the date on the QC sticker found on the seal, one's dated 2.28 and the other 3.31.
     
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    pushingtin Member Silver Stacker

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    So does that make the first 225 batch more or less valuable?
     
  12. Pandacollector

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    Much more, I expect.

    Best wishes,
    Peter Anthony
    http://www.pandacollector.com
     
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    alor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    wow the bro who bought from me got it lucky!

    :lol:

    I am glad I sold him more valuable Pandas, now we know about the cracked die (numbers below 200)
     
  14. silverybay

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    The COA number does not necessarily indicated whether its the first batch or second. I have 2 running number COA in low 200's but both are different, as seen in the pictures I posted above.
     
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    alor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    when did you get your pandas?

    looks like you have one of each on the pictures

    :)
     
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    Collected on Wednesday morning at their office.
     
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    "The COA number does not necessarily indicated whether its the first batch or second. I have 2 running number COA in low 200's but both are different, as seen in the pictures I posted above."

    Did Peter not say he THINKS it is the first 225. So if you had two coins delivered both in low 200's, (each with different dies) then it could very well be correct that the COA number correlates to the production of the coin?

    And if you have consecutive numbers - maybe you got the last of the old die and the first of the new die? :) That would be cool
     
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    The boxes, COAs and the medals were all shipped separately, as per my understanding from the staff at PA Singapore. When I collected my items, boxes, COAs and medals were handed to me as separate items. I rejected one of the box as there were some scratch marks. COA's were not from the boxes but from a separate stack. I was asked if I wanted the COA folded so it can fit into the box, to which I decline. As for coins, I can reject if any of them were not up to my satisfaction without having to change the box or COA.
     
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    alor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    the two I sold were collected on 30 Mar @ the show :)
     
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    alor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    that box with scratch marks must be the left over, one they could not sell, but the medal is ok :D
     

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