Old Chinese/Manchurian coins - need help in estimating value

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  1. TreasureHunter

    TreasureHunter Well-Known Member

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    Hi,

    I happen to have a number of Manchurian coins (I believe they're all Manchurian Chinese coins), but I'm unfamiliar with them, so I can't estimate their worth.

    I've found a number of coins online that look like mine and values range from 40-50 USD to above 1,000 USD, so the interval is too wide.

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    The coins are not silver, but seem to have traces of rust (probably containing iron?), but have an aluminium-like look.

    The coins look like some of these on CoinArchive:
    http://www.coinarchives.com/w/results.php?search=manchurian

    How much could each one be worth?
     
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    These coins look funny to me.
    The last two look fake.
     
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    "Look funny" meaning what?
    What makes you think they're fake?
     
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    I was intrigued by the first 2 coins shown in your picture.
    On one side is (in English) 'First year of Emperor Hsuan-tung' (Xuantong or better known as the last Qing dynasty Emperor Puyi). But on the other side of the coin, the 4 Chinese characters inside the inner circle said it belong to 'Emperor Guangxu money'! Strange.
    BTW on the outer circle the words on top are the name of the province that minted them and the below are the face value of '1 Mace 4.4 Candareens 20 Cents'
     
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    Strange, I don't know anything about these coins and they aren't silver for sure. They are most probably an alloy containing iron, because of the rusty spots. They are whiter than on the picture, looking a bit like a aluminium, but they're not that soft.

    I still have no idea what price they're worth...

    I see that some could be worth 100-800 USD, but I'm not sure if mine are fake or real.

    Here are some resources depicting similar coins, but most of them are silver:
    https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=sale&sid=666&cid=16817&v=1
    http://www.anythinganywhere.com/commerce/coins/coinpics/chin-struck.htm
    http://www.yscoin.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=43_44_51

    What coins are these?
     
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    So... fake?
     
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    all fake 100% for sure
     
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    How come some of these ancient Oriental coins have English writing on them?
     
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    cos issue or design from outside of china,like uk,germany,many many issued by london mint
     
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    They are supposed to be "old", but not "ancient". I thought they're colonial currency, so therefore the English writing...
     
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    china never been colonial for any countries

    hongkong did 100y

     
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    Not the entire China, but there were parts of it colonized by various countries. From Germany to Austria-Hungary as well:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_former_foreign_enclaves_in_China

    At some point on the internet I've found similar coins depicted as "Manchurian", but right now I'm unsure. They might belong to some colonial area within China.

    Does anyone know where they originate from?

    If they're fake, I reckon, they're worth pennies. But are they all fake?
     
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    told u china no any colonial ,please google more china history,germany is germany,settlement in china not mean colonial,totally different,
    long long ago,germany = austria,
    even can say uk queen's kids are Greek,not Britain

    im a professional chinese coin dealer in china.

    research more from internet u will know,ur coins 1000% fake

    any chinese coins i can verifield them 90%

    especailly these cheap normal  coins 100%
     
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    1. From china
    2. Definitely not genuine. Value = worth less than postage cost.
    Sorry to burst your bubble!
     
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    chinese coins not from china ,from where?u cant say from china are fake,many fake in europe and usa,australia

    just can say more fake from china.
    70% real coin of course still from china,if not europe or usa made them?
     
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    My question was rather: where would the real coins come from based on what's on the fakes?

    What type of currency would this be? Because I can't understand the Chinese writing on them...
     

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