NSW water crysis

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  1. leo25

    leo25 Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    NSW farmers are experiencing a bad drought and Sydney's dam is getting close to the level that requires the desalination plant to be turned on.

    Lets hope population doesn't keep increasing at the same rate otherwise Australia will have a lot of issues in 30 years time.

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    https://www.2gb.com/sydney-desalination-plant-could-be-switched-on-after-six-years/

    Sydney dam levels
    https://www.eldersweather.com.au/dam-level/nsw/
     
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    A market solution for urban water use is to charge more for water when it is scarce and less when it is abundant. A variable water pricing policy eg say increasing prices by 10% or more during times of drought would not reduce consumption by as much as the corresponding price rise, but it would reduce consumption nonetheless and allow consumers greater choice over the water-using habits than alternative strategies.

    A rural solution would be to reduce the amount of water available for irrigation, channel that water into urban use and encourage Australian farmers to concentrate on dry land farming where we have a competitive advantage over other producers.
     
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    NSW , QLD and most of Australia is in drought.
    I know they say we live in a country of droughts and flooding rains but man made weather manipulation/control is reality and has been at play in Australia for many years now to actually cause the drought. There is a big picture to all of this then meets the eye. Think global elite agenda of total control of the world population.
    The first big time weather manipulation/control was initially used by the US Military to give them the upper hand/victory in the Vietnam War. It was called operation Popeye. Cloud seeding using Silver Iodide. Weaponised weather !!




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    Chemtrails are being deliberately released in our skies everywhere for many years now and is linked into weaponised weather , weather control and mind control. The 5G network is soon being introduced to replace the 4G network. 5G is another link in this weather/mind control agenda of the elite. 5G ariels will be everywhere on buildings every 10th house. We will not be able to avoid them.

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    an urban solution would be to ration water supplies (you know, like it in the rural areas now with water allocations) when it's low so they learn the true value of water. until the time nothing comes out of the tap they don't know just how valuable it is. Que, whinging and bitching about not being able to wash the car or water the lawn..........

    dry land farming only works when it rains and at the right time, which is hardly ever. that's why irrigation works, you can use water flowing in rivers to be productive on land where it doesn't rain or rain isn't reliable enough for dry land farming, which is just about everywhere.
    want to save water? stop flood irrigating cotton on the driest inhabited continent on the planet.
     
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    Value is subjective :)
     
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    just as water is a necessity.
     
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    Auntie Mabel considers the needs of her gerberas to be a necessity.

    Value is subjective, instead of big State approaches ie bans, rationing etc let people put their wallets where their values are. The price of water is too cheap and doesn't reflect the costs in supply nor the value it returns. I'd prefer to see less emphasis on regulation and more on price, this includes green group demands for increasing flows in the MDB. Let them pay.



    - Australia does not rate in the top 30 or so for being dry.
    - urban demand is not that large
    - a large volume is wasted growing grass and feeding dairy cows for little net return. A large part of this low value irrigation uses methods which generate significant waste and environmental destruction.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-11-22/great_australian_water_myths/41362

    This is an old article, I wonder if the net returns in the dairy industry have changed in the last 5 - 10 years as a result of the increasing demand from China for Australian dairy produce?
     
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    I agree that we on average waste a lot of water in Australia, which would mean the price point is too low for us to really care about it. So increasing the cost would make people value it more.
    Though it's really industry that consumes most of the water, so increase water cost would be like increasing oil price and would increase over all cost of production making Australia even less competitive against communist countries like China where the state subsidise everything.
     
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    India, Pakistan and many other nations have been experiencing worse water shortage crysis.

    Let crap hole Sydney die of thirst! :)
     
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    How much does Sydney pay per day to keep the white elephant Flannery Follies desalination plant mothballed? We can't be that short on water to have spent hundreds of millions building it and paying for it not to have ever been used.
     
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    So it cost the government $1.8 billion to build, they then refinanced the site to a private company with a 50 year lease of the plant. Under the contract the government has to pay something like $150-200 million per year to keep it offline. (more if it's operational) so it will end up costing the government a lot more over the 50 year period.

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw...-in-state-of-hibernation-20150411-1miuw6.html
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Desalination_Plant
     
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    Who cares about those places. It's expected everything is worse over there, that's how they like it.
     
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    I don't too. If many people in them nations are going to die of thirst due to their dumbness to overpopulate then let them.
     
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    Any country that floods at any time has no reason to get struck in a drought.
    It just makes no sense to me that the likes of Australia and even here in NZ have times of drought when we also have times of flooding.
    Just build massive dams to capture the water in times of flood and that in turn will potentially change weather patterns as well to create more rain.
    The only reason this is not done is because of environmentalists not wanting large areas of otherwise useless land dug up .
    I am talking big big BIG holes for dams here not little ponds, 2km deep and 10 wide holds a lot of water that would otherwise be heading back to the ocean VIA peoples homes and roads during flood.
     
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    The solution is many more dams and more super large desal plant.
     
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    That would require vision from politicians and abandonment of self-interest. No chance.
     
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