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Agence France Press: Paris races to save Notre-Dame Cathedral as fire destroys steeple
All God bothering structures should be burnt to a crisp
BBC:"Notre-Dame cathedral: Firefighters tackle blaze in Paris"
Some would say that all classic cars and motor bikes should be crushed and scrapped as they use petrol and are a symbol of people who live in the past.
Be careful what you wish for spanner....
That's just a bit of a stretch isn't it ?
Fossil fuels and god bothers
I could live with no fossil fuels
Personally, not very fond of ANY organized religion, however I have interests in anything old and beautiful.
I was inside the cathedral in the mid 70's when the band I was in played a European tour.
Notre-Dame was a magnificent structure. Incredibly beautiful and awe inspiring.
It is a terrible loss to the people of France, and the world.
Yes, it’s about preserving beautiful architecture (and cars)
I read this earlier today - French police stopped and Islamic terror attack on Notre Dame Cathedral last weekend and found the group was planning another attack this week
How easy would it be to torch the place even when they "tried not to" pretty easy so it seems
Am I suggesting Islamist set the place of fire not necessarily,but it would certainly make a big statement to the "Christian West" and a great propaganda photo opportunity.
And if any evidence is found suggesting the above will Macron say so - NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO and "if" he did the rest of Paris would follow it's fiery fate
The new mosque on site will be such a wonderful signal of virtue
PR176 You read my mind.
Was reading an article on Newsweak about attacks on French churches, issued late March this year. https://www.newsweek.com/spate-atta...-sees-altars-desecrated-christ-statue-1370800
"....there had been a 25 percent increase in attacks on Catholic churches in the first two months of the year, compared with the same time last year."
"....while in many cases the motive for the attacks was not known, France faced growing problems with anti-Christian violence, especially by anarchist and feminist groups."
“I think there is a rising hostility in France against the church and its symbols," but "it seems to be more against Christianity and the symbols of Christianity."
“These attacks are on symbols that are really sacred to parishioners, to Catholics. Desecration of consecrated hosts is a very personal attack on Catholicism and Christianity, more than spray-painting a slogan on the outside wall of a church.”
"...while France had a long tradition of secularism, it was seen as a culturally Christian country, and so any "attack on the church as a symbol of religion was also an attack on authority and patrimony."
"The pressure is coming from the radical secularists or anti-religion groups as well as feminist activists who tend to target churches as a symbol of the patriarchy that needs to be dismantled."
edit. Appears the firefighters made a tremendous effort in getting the fire under control and limiting the (massive) damage the best they could. Heroes of the day in France, well done.
I just thought of the daily double,Paris and London are now officially stuffed
What I wonder marries them together,no prizes for guessing the reason,and coming to a town near you
I just heard that they are blaming the Notre Dame fire on Julian Assange
How would julian assange be linked to this? That's just silly. It is obviously the work of Donald trump.
The French Fire-Fighters should have been out fighting that fire.
Oh, that's right, they were out wasting water on 'THE YELLOW VESTS' crowd. SILLY ME.
p.s. That is my colourful take on it.
BAMIYAN, BABYLON, PALMYRA, NOTRE-DAME
The Bamiyan Buddhas were destroyed by an intolerant sect pretending to follow Islam. Buddhism all across Asia grieved. The West hardly paid attention.
The remaining ruins of Babylon, and the attached museum, were occupied, plundered and vandalized by a US Marine base during Shock and Awe in 2003. The West paid no attention.
Vast tracts of Palmyra – a legendary Silk Road oasis - were destroyed by another intolerant sect pretending to follow Islam with their backs covered by layers of Western “intelligence”. The West paid no attention.
Scores of Catholic and Orthodox churches in Syria were burnt to the ground by the same intolerant sect pretending to follow Islam with their backs sponsored and weaponized, among others, by the US, Britain and France. The West paid no attention whatsoever.
Notre-Dame, which in many ways can be construed as the Matrix of the West, is partially consumed by a theoretically blind fire.
Especially the roof; hundreds of oak beams, some dating back to the 13th century. Metaphorically, this could be interpreted as the burning of the roof over the West’s collective heads.
Bad karma? Finally?
Now back to the nitty-gritty.
Notre-Dame belongs to the French state, which had been paying little to no attention to a gothic jewel that traversed eight centuries.
Fragments of arcades, chimeras, reliefs, gargoyles were always falling to the ground and kept in an improvised deposit in the back of the cathedral.
Only last year Notre-Dame got a check for 2 million euros to restore the spire – which burned to the ground yesterday.
To restore the whole cathedral would have cost 150 million euros, according to the top world expert on Notre-Dame, who happens to be an American, Andrew Tallon.
Recently, the custodians of the cathedral and the French state were actually at war.
The French state was making at least 4 million euros a year, charging tourists to enter the Twin (Bell) Towers but putting back only 2 million euros for the maintenance of Notre-Dame.
The rector of Notre-Dame refused to charge for a ticket to enter the cathedral – as it happens, for example, at the Duomo in Milan.
Notre-Dame basically survives on donations – which pay the salaries of only 70 employees who need not only to supervise the masses of tourists but also to organize eight masses a day.
The French state’s proposal to minimize the ordeal; organize a beneficent lottery. That is; privatize what is a state commitment and obligation.
So yes: Sarkozy and Macron, their whole administrations, are directly and indirectly responsible for the fire.
Now comes the Notre-Dame of Billionaires.
Pinault (Gucci, St. Laurent) pledged 100 million euros from his personal fortune for the restoration. Arnault (Louis Vuitton Moet Hennessy) doubled down, pledging 200 million euros.
So why not privatize this damn fine piece of real estate – disaster capitalism-style? Welcome to Notre-Dame luxury condo, hotel and attached mall.
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