North Korea situation

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  1. alor

    alor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    there is no need for Korea to side with China, so long they can defend against any possible Japan aggression; there is balance
    they should have sufficient longer range missiles and latest anti-air defenses

    Korea may also want to connect with Western Asia and Europe
     
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    North korea has a lot of metal resources, China is eyeing those resources. Japan in future as well should they break from the Americans. The only thing stopping them are the nukes. No one wants to mess around with nuclear disaster.

    It may seem strange as metals nowadays are really not that valuable as we can see from low copper and silver prices. Definitely not as valuable as to want war. But 20-30 years down the road as mines are exhausted all over the world, NK (or the unified korea) will be in danger.
     
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    It is all about central banks, man. Metals or other resources have little or anything to do with it. Once you have a nation in debt and control their currency, you control them. Their resources are dictated by who they are in debt to. Debt is the most insidious form of slavery. You have already seen it in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria, etc recently (in case you wonder why they were national news "bad guys").

    ...the only real reason Iran and North Korea are the current "bad guys" is that they haven't been politically/militarily overthrown, had a central bank established to dictate their currency supply, had a new puppet leader put in place to sign off on tons of borrowing from that central bank, etc like the rest of the world is that they have nuclear weapons and WILL use them. You can therefore expect tons of continued media and economic pressures on them, and if that doesn't work, there will then eventually be assassination or low grade (Afghanastan or Libya) or even high grade (Iraq) warfare until the leadership is replaced with a more "agreeable" set of politicians that wants to live well and borrow heavily from a central bank under the guise of "infrastructure" and "public works" and "building the nation." Then, they're in debt they will never get out of just like every other country is.

    I'm certainly not saying North Korea and Iran are saints or that they don't have their fair share of human rights violations and national issues, but you will see the media devil horns and bullseye disappear pretty fast and trade sanctions relax once they get with "the program" of being a debt nation dependent on a central bank. Sad but true.
     
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    Remember...............

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    ^^^^
    Whatta legend mate... hands down!
     
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    Fragile peace? N. Korea threatens to produce nukes again if US sanctions remain
    https://on.rt.com/9huh

    “The US thinks that its oft-repeated ‘sanctions and pressure’ leads to ‘denuclearization.’ We cannot help laughing at such a foolish idea,” the North Korean statement offered.

    Restrictions against the North have added fuel to the simmering rift between Washington and Seoul. South Korea has offered financial and economic aid to the North once sanctions are lifted. President Moon Jae-in, for his part, promised that Seoul will help Pyongyang rebuild roads and railways as a first step to mend ties between the neighbors.
    Moreover, South Korea has considered lifting its own economic sanctions designed to force North Korea to abandon its nuclear weapons. In early October, the South Korean foreign minister Kang Kyung-wha suggested Seoul was willing to lift the restrictions as a goodwill gesture towards the North.

    South Korean plans have been given a sharp rebuke from the US. “They won’t do it without our approval. They do nothing without our approval,” Trump commented on Kang’s remarks. Officials in Washington have once again vowed to maintain a “maximum pressure” effort until the North denuclearizes.
     
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    Trump downplays North Korea's latest missile tests


    about a year later,

    ‘Nonsense’: N. Korea won’t stop tests, rejects talks with Seoul unless it ends drills with US
    There will be no direct talks with South Korea if it continues to stage joint military exercises with the US, a senior North Korean diplomat has said. The warning comes just as Pyongyang test-fired two short-range missiles.
    South Korea must know that “Inter-Korean contact itself will be difficult” unless “they put an end” to the ongoing joint military drill with the US, Kwon Jon-gun, director-general for American affairs at the Foreign Ministry, said on Sunday.

    Earlier in the day, the US and South Korea kicked off the main part of their 10-day computer-simulated command post exercise. The drill was due to be called Alliance 19-2 to signify the military bond between the allies but the name was ultimately dropped, ostensibly not to irritate Pyongyang, which sees all US-South Korean drills as a security threat.

    The exercise’s name change, however, does not “alter its aggressive nature,” Kwon stressed, saying that direct talks with Seoul are impossible in such circumstances.
    The diplomat said that “dialogue would be held strictly between the DPRK and the US, not between the North and the South.”

    Pyongyang has test-fired several missiles in recent weeks, including two short-range missiles launched on Saturday. The state-run Korean Central News Agency reported that the country’s leader Kim Jong-un personally oversaw the latter test, during which the weapon’s “advantageous and powerful demand of the design was perfectly met.”

    Kwon dismissed the protests by the South as “nonsense” and insisted that North Korea is free to conduct tests it deems integral to its security.

    Even the US president made a remark which in effect recognizes the self-defensive rights of a sovereign state, saying that it is a small missile test which a lot of countries do.

    US President Donald Trump, meanwhile, said that he had received a letter from Kim, containing “a small apology for testing short range missiles.”

    The US-North Korean negotiations made a promising start last year when Trump and Kim met face-to-face in Singapore, and Kim agreed to freeze ballistic missile tests. The second round of talks, held in Hanoi, Vietnam in February, went sour and the parties left the table, having failed to reach an agreement.

    New hope for reconciliation emerged in June, when Trump again met with Kim, this time en route to a G20 event in Japan. The leaders met at the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) between the two Koreas, and Trump became the first sitting US president to cross into North Korea.


     

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