Newman on the nose already.

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  1. Clawhammer

    Clawhammer Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Well it all came at once today. I got my tap on the shoulder from Mr Newman. Working in R&D it was always a matter of 'when' not 'if'. Also found out my super is s#!t so I've gotta make a lot of money as quick as i can. The Job Recruitment company had a position as a Geo on heli-rigs in the New Guinea highlands and politely suggested that, as a 38 yr old, I was running out of options. (how the hell did that happen? i still feel like a 26 year old :/ )

    Anyway I have to 'move' quick... get out of my unit & get my stuff into storage. At least I'll have plenty of cash to stack PM's & now have an oppourtunity to manage my own super (hello Perth Mint ;) )

    It's been great posting here over the past few years. I'll try to drop by occassionally.

    take care & keep stacking :thumb:
     
  2. boston

    boston Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Good luck with the change. Consider it a promotion.
     
  3. Lovey80

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    Clawhammer, were you permanent staff or contract/casual?

    Sorry to hear you got the cut.
     
  4. Clawhammer

    Clawhammer Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Sorry guys, been busy. My back's killing me and my arm has been used as a pin cushion :(

    Firstly, Thanx for the good wishes.

    Lovey & Co. ; Yes I was permenant. But as for value for money, well that'll be up to the future to decide. You have to understand there are people whom spend their whole day 10, 20, 30 years into the future. Specialists in Policy, Strategy, Sciences, Engineering & Economics who's efforts won't be missed in the short term.

    Govt has taken on the responsibilty of maintaining capability & expertise that the private sector can't maintain on a continual basis. The Dam Engineers in the recent Brisbane floods for example.

    Here are a bunch of highly specialized 'goobers' whom for 10years were essentially twiddling thier thumbs at tax payers expense. Then all of a sudden they're the most essential guys in the state. They performed their jobs impartially & flawlessly. They knew their job intimately... and were cleared by 2 investigations (including a public inquiry). Despite the critisim, their expertise saved the city from greater devastation.

    If these guys are sacked we may be safe for another 10 years. But when they're needed in a hurry, No amount of money will get you the right expertise in time. The private sector can't support them. And your average engineer can't twiddle his thumbs for 10yrs. Specialst Jobs matched to Specialist People... round pegs in round holes.

    Despite the talk about the pay... it ain't that great. any engineer or scientist worth their salt can get 3 times more pay doing a similar job in the private sector. But few in the private sdctor would wear a 60% paycut for a bit of job security. And think about a Policy writer. Ha e you any idea how boring it is...or the detail you need to go to for it to be correct? All that community consultation etc. Its awful. No one wants to do that... except Govt. manages to find a few & by the grace of God hold onto them before they end up in an insane asylum :).


    The problem is we've seen what happens when state authorities become glorified cheque writting facilities, contracting Govt. work out to the private sector... the tax payer gets raped by the contractors. Without the technical expertise to oversee contracts, it becomes a free for all.

    The public service let itself down by letting incompetent upper management become politisised & hire their contractor mates. The new Govt. saw their time in the wilderness as the P.S. 's fault when most P.S. are just too busy doing their jobs to care. P.S. I.T. systems and equipment is woefully outdated (they still run Lotus Notes as a central email system... even Lotus are giving up).

    But this cost cutting is an emotional punishment by the Govt. It's not really about cutting numbers because there are so many old workers about to retire . This restructure is being lead by the same upper management that've caused all the problems in the 1st place... so how do you think it'll go?

    The problem is many of us now have to take our qualifications, education, skills & expertise which we developed here in Qld out of the state...or in mu case out of the country.

    sure it'll be a hassle for me, but it'll cost the state more in the long run
     
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    Thank you for this post
     
  6. Clawhammer

    Clawhammer Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    added bit afterwards... sorry...on a smartphone at the mo. ;)
     
  7. Lovey80

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    Thanks a lot Clawhammer, really appreciate the post. I'd like your perspective on the way these "voluntary" redundancies are being done if that's ok?

    There is a lot of talk that this process isn't really a combination of "natural attrition" and "voluntary redundancies. Stories of employees being told that "redeployment" really isn't an option as they will simply offer them two opportunities that are lower paid and or simply not feasible like being offered positions in the middle of no where etc..... Can you confirm or deny this?
     
  8. errol43

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    Oh so the budget has revealed that instead of the debt being $100 billion under the ALP, it will be only $81 billion under the NLP.

    The QLD Treasurer reported that the new increase in Mining tax was OK by pointing out that BHP made $30 billion last year and it was only fair that they pay their fair share. Who does that remind you of???

    They are all the same I tell you..!!

    He stated that they would be $11 billion in the red for 12/13 followed for (wait for it) a $13 million surplus in 14/15..Who does that remind you of???

    They are all the same I tell you!!!

    Regards Errol 43

    Hope that there is no more diasters in Qld over the next 3 years or worse still a GFC mark2. :)
     
  9. errol43

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    They are going to sack Campbell Newman in 3 years, Yes we're going to sack Campbell Newman in 3 years..

    Yes the Queenslanders are getting the baseball bats out ready! 14.000 lies so far they scream by the PS who were promised that no jobs would be lost.

    Did the world's greatest Treasurer audit the NSW books...Federal government gives billions for education, state government take it away..

    Give me a break!!!

    You can see the writing on the wall, Australia is about to experience a financial recession/depression.
    The more doom the politicians give to the people the worse it will be as the ones with jobs try to protect their families from the prospect of unemployment!

    Regards Errol 43
     
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    hawkeye New Member Silver Stacker

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    I've said it before. It's like changing the management at Coke. The people may change, but the business model remains the same.
     
  11. Nugget

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    In the comments section of the Courier Mail there were numerous comments from public servants (sic) who made threats along the lines of "You think service is bad now? What do you think will happen if we get sacked"




     
  12. errol43

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    Qld goes back to not having a funded superannuation fund..Just read in the local news that Campbell Newman NLP government is about to put 11 corporations worth $51 billion on the market..

    Joe will be rolling over in his grave right now!

    Can do Campbell will then be able to crow about how he brought the Qld budget back in the black.

    Qld will join all the rest of the Australian States in having unfunded Super funds for public servants.

    Always remember that the Federal Government has the future fund to fund their super..That Costello, he be a smart one...I'll make sure I get my pension..He set it up!

    $200k Costello was paid to tell the Qld Government how to raid the super fund and get black in the black..

    I tell you and I will keep telling you that they are all the same!

    SA looks like it will be sacking 20000 public servants as well..NSW to sack????? workers?

    What a mob. Even a drovers' dog could do better .

    Regards Errol 43
     
  13. Shaddam IV

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    The Union workers elected the Labor Party that put their state into this mess.
     
  14. bordsilver

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    Errol, basically I am gobsmacked at your recent hate posts in this thread when the numbers and policies actually start coming out. Half this thread is that we all knew drastic change was on the cards because it simply has to happen. Yippe summed it up in his first post:


    It's like stupid Tanya Plibersek raving on about how the health of Queenslanders will fall as a result of cuts to frontline services while totally ignoring the whole issue of fiscal health. Health is a bottomless pit of wants but at the end of the day only so much money is available to spend on super-duper health outcomes. Ffs I'd love a golden lambo to go with my full-time medical staff living in my servants quarters.

    I choked on my drink in laughter when Tanya came out with the line in Sky news the day after (was something like) "It's not an easy thing to do to find savings. I did the same. When I came in as Health Minister, I had to cut the subsidy for private health insurance." :lol: HELLO!?! That's not cutting expenses that's increases taxes you idiot!
     
  15. errol43

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    Bordsilver,, seeing that you live around the Canberra area, I am surprised that you are gobsmacked about my posts.

    Is it because that I am a political atheist?

    Don't get me wound up on Gillard or Abbot!

    After the two natural disasters in Qld, it has taken quite a few $$ to get the state moving..

    The mining revenue to the State government will likely be a lot less than predicted..Lets hope that we don't get any more natural disasters in the next few years or we will be really stuffed.

    Whether there has been a Conservative or ALP government in power in Qld, I have always agreed that having a funded super fund for our state is a very good thing..That is why I feel so strongly about it because it is what has made our state different from the rest.

    Clive Palmer has more financial sense than Campbell.

    Kind of funny that all the Campbell supporters, don't discuss issues that Campbell never mentions.

    Regards Errol 43
     
  16. Lovey80

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    Please provide a link to a anything that says the LNP have stated they are considering sell offs.
     
  17. Eureka Moments

    Eureka Moments Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Kick-arse Campbell. :lol:

    http://www.news.com.au/breaking-new...-decide-mps-fate/story-e6frfku9-1226526687654

    Cant see him leading the LNP to the next election. He'll be gone by this time next year.
     
  18. Clawhammer

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    Rumour has it Douglas was removed as chair of the ethics commitee for being ethical.

    The evidence against Arts Minister Ros Bates and Transport DG Michael Caltibiano is unrefutable and amounts to the criminal charges of Lying to Paliament.

    Douglas's findings would have been hugely embarrassing to the current government.

    We're returning to the days of Jo Bjelkie and Russ Hinze
     
  19. errol43

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    In the Blue corner from Country Qld is the heavy weight champion of the state, the man who not only can do but he can listen and he can talk. CLIVE The Smart one .In the red corner we have the lightweight champion from Brisbane who is like the barbers cat all piss and wind! The dumb one!

    Let the battle begin. The LNP, a united party?? I don't think so..Still Liberals vs National!

    Regards Errol 43
     
  20. AngloSaxon

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    Its a sad fact of life that 10-15+ years of Labor governance results in so much rot and inefficiency in government that the incoming Libs/Nats whoever make themselves very unpopular quickly trying to sort out the mess and stave off budget or infrastructure disasters.

    UK is in a similar position as Qld. Thankfully NSW Libs aren't 'on the nose' to the same extent yet. Same will happen in SA and TAS when they eventually change governments, IMO.
     

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