New! Heart Shaped Pandas from the China Mint

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  1. Pandacollector

    Pandacollector Active Member

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    Sales of ungraded Valentine Pandas for $118.88 through China Pricepedia will end soon. Afterward, there will be a limited time offer for graded Valentine Pandas. These will come with a special, new, hand-signed NGC label. The label should add still one more special quality to the first heart-shaped Panda medal from an official Chinese mint. The Valentine Pandas weigh 1 Troy oz. of .999 silver and have a total mintage of 980. They were struck at the Shenyang Mint.

    Here is a sample Valentine Panda with the new NGC label:

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    China Pricepedia subscribers will be able to buy them through www.pandacollector.com.

    Best wishes,
    Peter Anthony
    China Pricepedia
    www.pandacollector.com
     
  2. Stark

    Stark Active Member Silver Stacker

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    I'm not a fan of special labels as I think they are now too many and some companies or sellers are using them to increase profits in a way that's not completely fair. And I'm not big fan of Valentine as I think it got too commercialized as many things.

    However I like the coin. I think it's a nice gift. And I appreciate your work, sharing knowledge and helpfulness.
    So I hope I will obtain 1 or 2 graded pieces.:)
     
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    mmissinglink Active Member

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    How neat Peter, you even get your picture on a label.....I'm way jealous! :D




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  4. Pandacollector

    Pandacollector Active Member

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    Thanks. I hope the focus will be on the Valentine Pandas, but this is very fun.

    Best wishes,
    Peter Anthony
    China Pricepedia
    www.pandacollector.com
     
  5. andrewlee10

    andrewlee10 Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Hi Peter Anthony

    Why the label panda identical with Nanjing panda silver note design ? The silver note has issued at least six months ago ?
     
  6. Pandacollector

    Pandacollector Active Member

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    While I didn't have a hand in creating this design, I know when I first saw it. That was more than six months ago. Your question could be flipped around, but I think this is most likely a coincidence.

    Best wishes,
    Peter Anthony
    China Pricepedia
    www.pandacollector.com
     
  7. andrewlee10

    andrewlee10 Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    You shall correct ngc since you first saw it is identical.

    Correct it since you know it is wrong due to coincidence and identical to it.
     
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    andrewlee10 Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    If you say this freshly ngc label design six month ago which is unbelievable. The panda silver note design 1 year or even more than one year ago if the ngc label design 6 months ago lol. Flipping around the question is not nice.
     
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    Stark Active Member Silver Stacker

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    So if I got it correctly the issue or a concern is that Panda on the NGC label of the heart shaped coin looks the same as panda on the Nanjing note?
     
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    andrewlee10 Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Yes it is crystal clear
     
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    STC Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I really like it & total mintage is very low. Should be a hit!

    I bought a 2006 5oz & some micro date off you a few years ago, wish I'd asked if you could have signed them also lol.
     
  12. Pandacollector

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    Andrew,

    As I said, I believe any resemblance is coincidental.

    Regardless, is the Nanjing note copyrighted? To the best of my knowledge no government copyrights its money designs. Money designs are protected by anti-counterfeiting laws. As long as there is no chance a copy can be mistaken for real money, all these designs are essentially public domain anyone can use graphic elements from them for any legal purpose. For instance, the cover of my next book is filled with designs of Panda coins. Do you think that is wrong, or that I need permission to reproduce a coin or currency design in my Panda book or anything else I write or illustrate?

    So there is nothing wrong and nothing to correct on this label. You may contact NGC directly if you disagree,

    Best wishes,
    Peter Anthony
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    www.pandacollector.com
     
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    andrewlee10 Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    As my understood that you means and encourage anyone can produce sans or similar design as Long as it is none legal tender coin and design is not protected by copy right.

    Legal is one aspect. Knowing it and not doing it is a moral aspect.
     
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    Stark Active Member Silver Stacker

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    I don't have a law degree or some related degree, but I doubt that any graphic work be freely used.

    For example I know of some cases of bloggers who used pictures found on Google images not being aware that not all can be freely used.

    There might be problems even when using design that is similar. I will later post link to a T-shirt that got a reward on a certain site for design, but it's basically a copy of old movie poster. When something is a copy or a "tribute" is debatable.

    Considering Valentine related theme of the coin NGC could select something more related.

    I know there are gazillion of panda related stuff out there and it's hard to be completely original.

    If you copy panda from label and search by image on Google images you will find very similar or the same design on Gizmodo from 2011.

    http://gizmodo.com/5816011/you-can-get-paid-to-track-down-panda-doo-doo-in-china
     
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    Stark Active Member Silver Stacker

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    There are actually bunch of products available with same panda from pillows to bottles, etc.
     
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    yennus Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Hi Pandacollector, any special offers for SilverStacker members? :)
     
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    andrewlee10 Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    If you aware of the label used is similar and acknowledge it by saying it is not my problem and is others problem. This tell you the person character and way of behaving.

    I am not Lawyer Nor Nanjing mint to say it has copy right issue too lol
     
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    Ipv6Ready Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    What is the problem, mints allow partial reproduction of banknote images, as long as it cannot be mistaken for the legal tender aka counterfeit.

    So I can't see what the issue is?
     
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    The issue is that "products" that are perceived as competition have to be muddied and impugned as much as possible in any way possible. That is the modus operandi. There are quite a lot of examples of this you will come across here in this MCC&M section of the Forum, usually from one point source!
     
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    So if 2 coins or precious medals related things use the same design is not ok, but if the coin or medal copies design from non precious metals related things it's ok?

    Cause sitting panda on Nanjing note is also a direct copy of design from other, not precious metals related products.
     

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