New 2014 Canada 1.5 Oz Silver Arctic Fox

Discussion in 'Silver Coins' started by Altima, Dec 5, 2013.

  1. Altima

    Altima Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2013
    Messages:
    4,178
    Likes Received:
    58
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Canada/Singapore
  2. thatguy

    thatguy Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2011
    Messages:
    5,805
    Likes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    38
    Location:
    Brisbane
    Nice coin... wish there was decent competition to the Perthmint... but alas RCM milk spots are not terribly tempting, but still closest there is
     
  3. dross

    dross Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2010
    Messages:
    497
    Likes Received:
    221
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Location:
    R.I.P
    The milk spots will blend in on this one, 3-D snow effect LOL
     
  4. Photonaware

    Photonaware Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2010
    Messages:
    1,125
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    The Shires in England
    I've obtained quite a few Polar Bears and luckily they are all free of the cursed spots. They are a chunky coin and a but different to the one oz. I hope to find a seller of the Fox coin whilst spot remains low.
     
  5. AgAuNEWS

    AgAuNEWS Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2013
    Messages:
    649
    Likes Received:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    My Polar Bear is covered in milkspots. Does my head in frankly.

    If anyone is interested, there are some big images of the coin up on the site. http://agaunews.com/?p=7540

    Beautiful coin. I like it a lot, which makes the spotting doubly annoying.
     
  6. xRebirthed

    xRebirthed New Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2012
    Messages:
    36
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Singapore
    [​IMG]
    Source: http://www.learcapital.com/arcticfoxcoin.html

    Looks like you have quoted the wrong image and specification in your website. It's 8 CAD instead of 5 CAD.
     
  7. AgAuNEWS

    AgAuNEWS Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2013
    Messages:
    649
    Likes Received:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Thanks. Must've had a brainfart. LOL
     
  8. Hellcat6

    Hellcat6 New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2013
    Messages:
    182
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    United States
    I looked at getting one of these from Lear Capital, shipping would be $24! Will these eventually make it out to other on line retailers?
     
  9. AgAuNEWS

    AgAuNEWS Member

    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2013
    Messages:
    649
    Likes Received:
    22
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Location:
    United Kingdom
    Yes. Lear just have the US distribution rights.
     
  10. Altima

    Altima Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2013
    Messages:
    4,178
    Likes Received:
    58
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Canada/Singapore
    Now you can buy the Canadian polar bears on apmex.

    Just a matter of time that's all.
     
  11. XCskater

    XCskater New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2011
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Netherlands
    Milk Spots are quite easily removed with tooth paste. Rub between fingers or in a microfibre cloth.

    The Polar Bears were much more affordable in Europe than in CA/US. Hardly any premium over Maple Leafs, as low as 2%. I got a bunch, one of my larger silver positions if not the largest. Hope I will be able to source the Foxes cheaply also. Would this be turning into an Arctic series of sorts?
    We're all missing out now that RCM is not doing a Wildlife Series II of sorts. Just that 25 year Maple isn't going to cut it for 2014 IMO.
     
  12. Photonaware

    Photonaware Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2010
    Messages:
    1,125
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    The Shires in England

    I agree - P.B.'s were obtainable at good prices in Europe and I got a stash.
    Amazed at the premiums in the USA despite no VAT added.
    I also sourced some capsules that fit the 1.5 oz coins.

    No-one is listing the Fox and with VAT in Germany rising from 7% to 19% shortly I might abandon adding silver altogether.
     
  13. XCskater

    XCskater New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2011
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Netherlands
    Where are you located?
    I'd ike some of those capsules and I have intel on affordable (legal even) silver if you don't splash it all over the internet. Helps you flip silver short term. It's what I do as I live on a negative (yes, you read that correctly) purchase power to keep alive, and stacking.
     
  14. hobwell

    hobwell New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 3, 2012
    Messages:
    65
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Norfolk, United Kingdom
    Bump for the Silver Fox :) I was just wondering why the premiums are so high on this, compared to the Polar Bear? Polar Bear around 30 Silver Fox around 41.50 :-(
     
  15. XCskater

    XCskater New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2011
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Netherlands
    Geiger, a German dealer and mint house, answer to me : (Google translated)
    ***
    In the case of polar bears existed in Europe and America each an exclusive supplier / rights owner, who sold the coin as bullion coin, and submitted to each a minimum order of several hundred thousand pieces per year.

    The arctic fox is, however, not designed as a bullion coin, the minimum purchase should be much lower, but the premium has increased enormously. Furthermore, the sole licensee shall make no interest commercialization in Europe priced, so we have to import the coins through our American store-consuming and increases costs.
    ***
    I think it comes down to greed/smart business.
    They seeded a market to WANT this series, and then changed the rules on us. From maybe 800,000 or so minted (my guess) in 2013, they will drop under 100,000 probably, and make MORE profit from it.
    Not designed as bullion coin, but otherwise identical to Polar Bear. Maybe the strikes will be slightly more decent. The Polar Bears had some vertical lines in them?
     
  16. Hellcat6

    Hellcat6 New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2013
    Messages:
    182
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    United States
    I got a couple of Polar Bears and was also not thrilled by the higher premium on the fox. But the hook is already in and I bought a couple on eBay, waiting for them to come in now. Really like the look, size and feel of these!
     
  17. XCskater

    XCskater New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2011
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Netherlands
    Would you rate them higher quality?
    I'll buy some to flip, or see if they can increase premium, but really, they are higher priced than some pretty flashy coins already. Panda's, Ruanda, close to Lunar II Horse.
     
  18. Photonaware

    Photonaware Active Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2010
    Messages:
    1,125
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    36
    Location:
    The Shires in England
    Defintely keen to get a tube of Foxes but unwilling to pay the premium right now. Not helped by the recent rise is spot - well overdue but not desirable when in the market to buy ! Cannot win.
     
  19. XCskater

    XCskater New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 21, 2011
    Messages:
    16
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Netherlands
    Win by buying something that will likely accumulate premium. Buy Foxes from the proceeds. A complicated discount scheme with gamble factor.
     
  20. swe_silver

    swe_silver New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2012
    Messages:
    71
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Sweden
    High premium and milkspots? No thanks!
     

Share This Page