Mega blowout. Another $20 BILLION needed for NBN rollout

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  1. Ipv6Ready

    Ipv6Ready Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Multicast microcells.

    Look it up, no need to break the laws of physics.
    It is very simple.
     
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    bordsilver Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    From a 2014 thread:
    Remember the good old days when the NBN would "only" cost $43 billion and be completed in 8 years. Now that was a Government you could trust. :(
     
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    I should get a job as a fortune teller. :D
     
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    It's not just about speed and bandwidth. Wireless is and always will be problematic for reliability.
    Try using wireless connections to stream professional audio let alone video, it sucks.
    Wireless is useless for those that need rock solid low latency connections. Microwave can have lower latency than fibre, but reliability is always a problem, and that's for dedicated links.
    Fibre is the only solution.
     
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    And don't forget the backhaul. Copper can carry electrons faster than fibre in short hauls but there is any number of reasons why fibre is best. As for wireless. Ya still gotta get it back to the exchange somehow and fibre is where its at.
     
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    And how, pray, does one link the micro cells to the rest of the internet?

    Anyone who's done any works on ZigBee networks (802.15.4) will be able to see the problems in scaling up a local network into something that can plug into a universal network.

    Seriously, these problems were apparent in the 90s and the bottlenecks haven't gone away just because some parts have got faster.
     
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    If I turn it off and then turn it on again, will that fix it?

    ;)
     
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    Nine times out of ten, yes it will:lol:
     
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    Or just turn it off:
     
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    Sure, I'm referring to domestic, household applications where the odd dropout isn't a biggie. Businesses should invest in their own, more secure and reliable connections, like many do already. I think spending all this dough to run ultra-fast broadband to every house, based on technology that will be obsolete soon, is a very poor idea, at least when using taxpayers' money.
     
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    This insane idea of the Australian Socialist Party will end up costing best part of $100 BILLION!

    ....and will probably NEVER make a profit on that sort of capex investment.

    JMO


    OC
     
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    The very word 'billions' has lost its impact, don't you think? I pause now and then to wonder at the reckless governments we have had recently, where BILLIONS of dollars have been spent on unnecessary and overpriced school shade structures, domestic broadband infrastructure that duplicates the existing network for all practical purposes, and a job-creation scheme in South Australia that will take twice as long to build half the number of submarines we actually need.

    Seriously, I feel I've entered the Twilight Zone.
     
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    Problems in 90s is not an issue anymore.

    Like everything in IT it evolves and what was once thought impossible or impractical can be done with a minimum of fuzz now.

    I used see order forms $2200 per mb for IP Transit 20 years ago (was very junior so just heard about it), adding an extra 10 or 20mb was a big deal, now i sign off at 10gb for single digits, without batting an eyelid.

    What was impracticle than 20, 10 or 5 years ago is not an issue.

    Think COW and expand your mind
     
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    What’s the blowout up to now, $85bn?

     
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    This is Turnbull ' s baby from the beginning. ... now he's PM, he will pour as much cash to keep this one going....he's not paying a cent... we all are
     
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    It was a Kruddy-Swan baby that Turdball inherited and ran with because (as per this thread) too many voters actually believed that (a) there was a problem that (b) the government could fix in (c) a timely manner, that (d) wouldn't cost them anything/much.
     

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