Massive backlash after ATO staff asked to work 7.5 hours/day

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  1. SpacePete

    SpacePete Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    The poor things aren't happy about the suggestion that they should work 9 minutes more for a total of 7.5 hours per day. Imagine not being able to leave work at 4:51 pm. The suffering would be horrific.

    (Note that staff do often work beyond 4:51 on a flex time arrangement where they get to take additional time off on full pay when enough hours are accumulated. This system is easily "gamed".)

     
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    Shaddam IV Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Drain the swamp.
     
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    give them the flick, hire people that want to work - simple.

    That's how we do it in the industry I work in.
     
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    SpacePete Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Not when your working day is shorter than almost everyone else in the public service and in the community.

    Let's get real here... their full time working day is 7:21. That is seriously out of step with most people in full time employment.
     
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    Are they asking them to work those extra minutes for free?
     
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    doomsday surprise Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Simplify the tax code so you can get rid of a lot of these leeches.
     
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    surely the worst queues in any major Aussie utility ever. Must be a better way that Auspost. It is the same situation all over the country. I don't blame Aussie Post workers for defending their conditions,but cripes if time is money, think of all the minutes lost from people waiting in those lines that snake their way to the entrance.
     
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    As much as I don't have any sort of an appreciation for what the ATO does, I to would be more than a bit narky about having my work day extended by 9 minutes if I hadn't had a pay rise for several years with only the prospects of year on year wage increases that are BELOW inflation being offered in exchange.
     
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    I remember a Commonwealth Department added the 9mins back a couple of decades ago in exchange for 3 days extra leave between Christmas and New Year. Surprised to hear that the ATO hadn't already done this as I thought they get the extra days off anyway.
     
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    Would just be in line with what's been happening in much of the private sector over the past few years.
     
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    Now, now...stop acting like Herald Sun acolytes for a minute.
    I have intimate knowledge of Enterprise Bargaining and can speak 1st hand on how management do twist details and have them made public to discredit the very group it is supposed to be working with. It is impossible to have an opinion either way on the very, very limited information published in our newspapers. Unless you actually have skin in the game and can offer an insight into the actual working hours and conditions of the A.T.O. then you should refrain from jumping to conclusions.
    I know whenever I saw the lies (they were not even half truths) printed in the newspaper it would make my blood boil.
     
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    I'd be pretty stoked if I got asked to work 7.5 hour days.
     
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    Sack the lot of them and introduce a simple & fairer tax system that doesn't require massive overheads.
     
  14. SpacePete

    SpacePete Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Latest stats have private sector wage growth at 1.8% so it does suck to have wage increases that are below the official inflation rate.

    But I also think most white collar private sector employees, and small business owners, work much longer hours with no flextime or overtime (I myself do). While it would be great for us all to get nice pay rises and fewer working hours, I can understand the frustration of taxpayers (who are working longer and longer hours with no increase in benefits) when they see the public sector hoovering up tax revenue and complaining about working hours that are so far out of line with many other workers in equivalent private sector positions. There's a lot of pain in the private sector, and this could evolve into anger as people a squeezed harder and harder with no respite.
     
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    SpacePete Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    YES!!! This is the solution!!! Our tax system is horrendously complex!
     
  16. PeterS

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    Here, here. Why the hell should a basic PAYE taxpayer need an accountant to do his tax?
     

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