Malaysian airlines plane shot down over Ukraine

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  1. Gorth

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    Add "Operation Bring Them Home" to that flood of propaganda.
    Certainly the families want their loved ones returned, and as Australians I hope we would all expect our government to take what steps are necessary to repatriate the remains of our fellow citizens. But are we all so juvenile that we need the government to play at tin soldiers just to convince us they are going to get something done?
    Is it a deliberate militarisation of the rhetoric associated with the functions of civilian government? It seems that governments are all too willing to invoke the military mission paradigm when discussing their actions with the Australian People. I guess it makes it easier to throw up a cloud of secrecy whenever that seems expedient.
     
  2. Old Codger

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    Given the number of unshaven rabble about the site, all toting AK47s, I sure hope our lot are armed to the teeth.


    OC

    (can anyone tell me if Ukrainians are 'slavs'?)
     
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    Its just getting embarrassing now...

    "Operation Bring Them Home"
    "Coalition of The Grieving"
     
  4. JulieW

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    Embarassing indeed.

    Headline in The Age:

    "Eyes betray a PM's sombre duty"

     
  5. GOLDPIRATE

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    God, pls stop them grrrrrr.......

    There is no news now other than the Rockefeller type spewed over the OS airwaves.

    There is now no Aussie leader/leadership now, nor in the near future

    We must endure the crap that's filtered down to us cannon fodder now

    Go the Anzacz (yeah right :rolleyes:)
     
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    If you meant: Are Ukranians slavic (or slavyans)? Then answer is Yes.
    About a half of the population is Russian speaking (and I mean they actually speak Russian at home all the time FFS).

    This is an artificial conflict as all created by the CIA usually are.
     
  7. Shaddam IV

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    They are sending police and troops into an active war zone. It IS a miltary mission.
     
  8. alor

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    "We have new evidence that the Russians intend to deliver heavier and more powerful rocket launchers to the separatist forces in Ukraine, and have evidence that Russia is firing artillery from within Russia to attack Ukrainian military positions," State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf told reporters during the Thursday afternoon briefing.

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    "Although Ukrainian government officials and the press service of the National Guard have denied using Grad rockets in Donetsk, a Human Rights Watch investigation on the ground strongly indicates that Ukrainian government forces were responsible for the attacks that occurred between July 12 and 21," the group said on Friday.

    http://rt.com/news/175484-hrw-rockets-killed-civilians/

    that seems to be how things call intelligence are being done.

    get Kiev to do the act, and place the blame on Russia instead.
     
  9. alor

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  10. Old Codger

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    CC,

    "the US obliged to respond."


    The ANZUS Treaty does NOT oblige anyone to "respond", it obliges parties to CONSULT!


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    Old Codger Active Member Silver Stacker

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    CH,


    Thanks for that, I was trying to get a handle on how (ethnic?) 'Russian' the Ukrainians may be. I presume the Ukrainians have been talking Russian for well over 70+ years, about 3 generations.


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    The Ukrainians have been speaking Russian for over 200 years, well before we or the americans even existed !

    So they became independent relatively recently, as back in the 60's, 70's, Russia raped them for all their produce.
    The issue I don't hope for is the civil war which is happening now via the EU. With a price tag of seventy billion and forty tons of gold, stolen in the darkness of night into a Swiss bank.

    They should be left alone !
     
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    Raven,

    Putin has decided that Hussein Obama is as weak as water. He is making his move now with 2016 firmly in his mind.

    So is CHINA! In particular in the South China Sea.


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    forget about those regimes and their doctrines. right now they are far better capitalists than anyone !

    :)
     
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    Only when viewed from a distance.
     
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    Looks like Abbott's international statesmanship is being appreciated for what it is ...

    Clearly, Mr Abbott has thought this through long and hard and this isn't just some kind of knee-jerk reaction. :/
     
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    As the plane "crash" wouldn't be sad enough, the context in which it happened is even sadder.

    Maybe my father was right when he said that 3rd WW will start this year.

    I can't even believe the shit that is happening around the world today. So many conflicts and so many stupid politicians who want to get political points out of playing with fire.

    Nothing ever good came out of US/EU peace interventions...
     
  19. Old Codger

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    Stark,


    You should have lived in the '50s and '60s, that was REALLY exciting.


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    :) I think we are not so far away from that times.

    I guess mankind didn't advance much since then.
     

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