Libertad experts

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  1. NQDave

    NQDave Active Member Silver Stacker

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    I got 2 Proof Libertad's of ebay which showed up today, the only problem is i don't think there proof coins.They have a frosted background like my normal 1oz Lib's.Anyone got one at home or seen the real thing that can give me an idea before I send a nasty email to the seller.Also one coin has a few marks on it.
    Here is the ebay number 310313760565, he has them as 2011 and my coins are 2010.
     
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    I'm far from an expert but I do vaguely recall reading somewhere on the net that the silver libertad proof were only in mirror-like not frosted. It's the internet so it could be wrong but that said hopefully someone here can verify for you.
     
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  3. NQDave

    NQDave Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Yea my understanding is proof has polished background.
     
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    Looks like proof coin, but not sure if we see the actual coin, but only copy and pasted photo.
     
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    Go to APMEX and check the libertad section for photos (quite a few there) and see which one your coin matches. At least then you have a reference point if you make a complaint.
     
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    By no means an expert (on anything) but,

    Very deceptive listing...

    The pic appears to be one of a proof coin, lifted from the Bank of Mexico site, the item title says "proof", and then in the description it says "BU"..

    I don't have any proof libs, but I would most certainly expect to see a mirror-like polished background ..

    The difference between Proof & BU is readily apparent here >> http://www.pandaamerica.com/mexican_libertad.asp?keyword=libertad&sortby=entrec

    If the coins you've received are the same as your normal 1oz libs, then I'd say you have grounds for a Item Not as Described dispute...

    Good luck with it.

    :)
     
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    NQDave Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Hi Projack, they look like the coins you sold me 4 weeks ago and I;m sure you didn't sell me proof's .
     
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    NQDave Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Had quick look at the web site, I've got the BU coins for sure,not even the right year, guess i'll email the seller.
     
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    its a proof
     
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    projack Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    This is my proof

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    Here u go...

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    This is a BU...

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    I don't know if this is the correct place to ask this question, but I don't want to start a new thread every time I write something.

    I have the opportunity to buy a 1oz gold libertad (2002) graded MS68 by NGC. I don't really care about grading, but I prefer my coins to look new. Does a MS68 even command a premium for relatively new bullion coins? Would I get noticeably more for this rather than a brand new coin?

    If it doesn't really matter, I would prefer smashing the box and put it in an air-tite...
     
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    Does anyone know when the Bank of Mexico typically releases the mintage numbers for the year? I believe that I came across an article a few months ago from early December 2013 which had quoted the mintage numbers for 2013 (?via Don Bailey and son)...

    Cheers,
    Luker
     
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