Leyonhjelm - Pensions are charity

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  1. bordsilver

    bordsilver Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    In the AFR:

     
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    I'm sure David's long term goal along with his brethren is screening and means testing for a government program of compulsory euthanasia.

    It has been spoken about many times no matter how unsavory that is to people.

    Here's what has been happening in the Netherlands where euthanasia is legal...
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    In Australia Doctors are doing a much better job, our numbers of successful deaths without consent or knowledge is on a massive uptrend. The club is doing a bang up job.
     
  3. bordsilver

    bordsilver Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    No. It is about limiting welfare payments to people who need welfare.

    Well off people should not look upon the pension as an entitlement (particularly in light of the way it is "funded"). The pension should be for those that are unable to fund themselves.
     
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    Great letter!

    This guy sounds like Australia's answer to Ron Paul! ;)
     
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    Hilarious coming from someone who will be on a lucrative pension for life...

    This bloke is an epic cock, Probs time to hassle him on Twitter again.
     
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    bordsilver Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Yeah there is the little bit about tax they have paid all their working lives. If they did not get robbed of hundreds of thousands of dollars they may well be able to look after themselves
     
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    Agreed!

    As he said...

     
  9. systematic

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    What does a desk sitting, pencil pushing politician know about work ....
     
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    Maybe I should become a politician because that is pretty much all I do for a living.
     
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    If we all did that we would have total societal collapse in a week ...
     
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    The problem is that a house is treated as some holy entity. If you have a 10 million dollar house, no matter what your circumstances you should not receive any welfare. You can sell the house, buy a smaller house/apartment and live your days comfortably on the remainder.
     
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    Can someone fact check the above claim? Most sources claim that federal politicians have very generous retirement benefits:

     
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    Source: The Parliamentary Retiring Allowances Act 1948


    Inline with Commonwealth PS for those first elected after 2004 but not inline with the general public. So the claim that it is the same as everyone else is a bit rich.
     
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    Don't be ridiculous, no one would support "compulsory" euthanasia. They'll name it something more acceptable, like "involuntary euthanasia" or freedomnasia, or even post-natal abortion.

    And there will be a special exemptions for politicians, oligarchs and members of security agencies. Eventually the age cutoff will be shifted or weakened so it can be applied to anyone viewed as unproductive or unpatriotic.

    Service guarantees life, would you like to know more?

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    I think post-natal abortion would be the one that the general public would find most acceptable.
     
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    Maybe .... a company director since 1989 .... is 26 years of desk sitting not enough ....
     
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    Maybe he needs to draw a distinction between having a "job" and "working" ie making a tangible contribution through the expenditure of energy ...

    The contribution of office work to sedentary behaviour associated risk
    "Sedentary time accounted for 81.8% of work hours (light activity 15.3% and MVPA 2.9%), which was significantly greater than sedentary time during non-work time (68.9% p < 0.001"

    http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2458/13/296
     
  19. bordsilver

    bordsilver Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Wow. You're a bit of a job snob. It's only "work" if you break out in a sweat. :rolleyes:
     
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    I disagree if you happen to be living in a "home " you grew old & brought up your family in why should you have to sell it because the gov says no matter what its worth .I agree that it should be a holy entity.

    Sometimes its not all about money & personally i think thats one thing the powers got right for a change
     

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