Discussion in 'Current Affairs' started by JOHNLGALT, Oct 2, 2017.
Hahaha that's funny John !
Receipt Shows Paddock Had Another Guest in His Room Before Shooting
An image posted on Facebook by a man who claims he served Stephen Paddock room service shows that the gunman was with a guest during his time at the Mandalay Bay hotel four days before the massacre took place.
The receipt shows an employee named Antonio served two guests an “IRD_MB,” which means “In Room Dining, Mandalay Bay.”
The table number is “32135” – which equates to Paddock’s room number (135) on the 32nd floor.
Paddock ordered a burger, a bagel with cream cheese, a potato soup, one bottle of water and two Pepsis, suggesting that there was another person eating with him in the room. The receipt shows the number “2” next to the word “Guests”.
"Leah Libresco, a statistician and former newswriter at FiveThirtyEight, wrote in the Washington Post that she used to think gun control was the answer, until she did her own three-month research project with her colleagues at the data journalism website. She admitted that she grew frustrated when analyzing all 33,000 gun deaths per year in the United States.
“We looked at what interventions might have saved those people, and the case for the policies I’d lobbied for crumbled when I examined the evidence,” Libresco wrote. “The best ideas left standing were narrowly tailored interventions to protect subtypes of potential victims, not broad attempts to limit the lethality of guns.”
She found that using the examples of Britain and Australia, who have very strict laws on gun ownership, aren’t the perfect examples that liberals use in their pro-gun control arguments. In Britain, the gun ban and buyback program in 1996 had little impact on crimes involving guns as they continued to rise in the late 1990’s and peaked in 2003-04.
In Australia, homicides declined after the ban and buyback were implemented, however, they were already declining prior to the 1996 Port Arthur massacre."
Go to 5:27 regarding Leah Libresco.
The gun debate is a distraction (that doesn’t mean I’m a conspiracy theorist), a means to secure votes and on a more sinister level, a means to enhance the power of the State. As you suggest, gun control mitigates the sudden nature of violent assault by firearms, but it doesn’t heal the underlying cause of that violence.
What most outside the US don't realize is that if you don't have the right to "bear arms", like we do in our 2nd Amendment, then you really aren't FREE as a people. Not down to the core at least.
You may think you are and things may be going well in your country to the point that you feel and believe you are free, but that is an illusion for now. Most sheep in the field think they are free too I would imagine, until taken to slaughter.
If a non gun owning nation's leaders somehow become dictatorial and disallow elections, stage a coup, etc (sort of like Thailand did, etc) what recourse would the non gun owning citizens have other than to bend over and accept it?
That is why the forefathers put the 2nd Amend into the Bill of Rights. They saw first hand how mother England did her business and didn't want to be a victim to them in the future (that's why we broke free from them as well).
What is also not mentioned by anti gun lefties is that roughly 2/3 of US gun deaths are suicide.
Further, what you will NEVER see mentioned in the MSM (in fact they go out of their way to hide or obfuscate) is that certain "subsections" of US citizens are much more violent than the others - at least per the Federal crime statistics. These folks commit a very large number of violent crimes relative to their size in the census numbers. Ironically, many of these citizens reside in locations with the toughest gun laws.
Due to the skyrocketing domestic violent crime many locales were experiencing, many states started allowing concealed carry for its citizens. In fact, many states are now allowing what is called Constitutional carry, which means you don't need a license to carry (I am against that by the way).
We are actually seeing a lessening of restrictions on gun laws with respect to ownership and carrying over the past decase. This was and is being done because law abiding citizens in society are demanding the right to protect themselves from violent criminals because the police can't do it for them. Please note, all of this started and was done during Obummer's two terms, not under Trump.
Even lefty states like Illinois finally were forced by higher court decisions to allow concealed carry, because the defenseless citizens there were tired of being unprotected and demanded it. See below link.
It is really impossible to compare Oz and the US simply by looking at shooting deaths and say "see told ya so".
Not mine, but a great take on the Statist's tired argument:
M8 go and look at the actual figures for Gun ownership and Homicide rates in the US. Go and look at the decline in Homicide rates in
Australia prior to the Howard intervention. The largest number of gun deaths on either continent are due to suicides, the next largest are due to criminal or gang related deaths, IE: Minority demographics Killing each other.
Registered/Legal gun owners are nearly invisible in any of the recorded gun deaths apart from suicide.
Criminals will always be able to obtain Guns, despite any legal obstacles. How do you think imposing more laws that everybody except criminals have to obey will stop any sort of carnage we have all become accustomed to ?
"But it's against the law!"
Actually, the FBI went around seizing video from businesses near the pentagon that caught footage of the "thing" that hit the pentagon.
Anyone who believes the "official" 911 story that 19 (or however many) peace lovers did all this by themselves is beyond stupid.
Remember the Brit reporter who said building 7 fell while it was still standing?
That's ridiculous. It's perfectly feasible that both black boxes were destroyed and never recovered, whilst the paper passports of those fantastic flyers were found intact.
I am sure government conspiracies happen but i doubt WTC 7 was one of them.
Reporters in these situations (especially 20 years ago) would aim for as much hype and drama as possible so would have been suggesting all sorts of things.
Just the other day here Oz called the death of Tom Petty almost a day before the actual event, Oz are you working for the govt and was Petty's death some sort of false flag?
I know a lot of things that happened on 911 need better explanations but i think the whole building 7 thing was just a coincidence and if people get to sidetracked with that one thing it may detract from thing that need real explanation like the Pentagon.
2 planes hit 2 building but 3 towers went down that day
Watch @ the 7-8 second mark in the video as an event security guard opens fire in the crowd with a sub machine gun.
OH, do you mean this fellow here in the YELLOW VEST in the pink rectangle who is shooting into the crowd from street level & in the lower frame the pink circled victims of his shooting are seen dropping?
Replay that few seconds as many times as you like and you will know the answer.
CLICK ON THE ITEM TO ENLARGE IT.
You think that sort of crowd demographic wouldn't be on a shooter like that in their midst within seconds ? The guy would of been torn Limb from Limb the second he went to change Mag's.
its a blood (caged sheeple) sacrifice
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