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  1. Ipv6Ready

    Ipv6Ready Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Port of Darwin is a lease, the company does not own it, much like 90% of Kidman farm is pastoral lease.
     
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    Yes a lease and how long for? They fing own it!

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-...ear-from-darwin-port-lease-says-china/7237218

    Like the 100 year lease of property in Canberra aya mate :rolleyes:
     
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    I think what you would find is that buying the farm isn't the expensive part - abiding by all the rules and regulations, and then turning a profit would be.

    Here is an example of what I mean:

    If you do your homework, you may discover that there is ONE company that handled more than 60 per cent of all livestock exported from Australia.

    Why shouldn't family farms be granted the same permissions as big corporations? The answer isn't China - It is well meaning regulations that negatively affect farmers.

    [I'm not criticizing that ONE company... I'm criticizing the regulatory framework that makes it virtually impossible for farmers to profit from the direct export of their produce to foreign markets]

    If you truly value the Australian National Interest, it is in your interest to target the policies that keep farmers poor - rather than chase away investment that help farmers become more profitable.

    "The typical farm here generates a return on capital of just 1.4 per cent, according to a government report. That deters local investors and makes foreign investment all the more vital."
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    "Australia needs to put aside objections to foreign investment because the alternative is falling farm productivity and rising subsidies, said Peter Langridge, emeritus professor at the University of Adelaide who has advised the United Nations on agricultural policy. Fears of foreign-owned farms sending food home while Australians go hungry are unjustified because the government would simply nationalise the property in such a scenario, he said."

    http://www.smh.com.au/business/chin...very-minute-in-australia-20160329-gntruc.html

    You may think that chasing away Chinese/foreign investment is a good "Australian" thing to do - but you are wrong. Talk to the farmers and see what they have to say about it - there are reasons which you have not considered on why they are happy for more foreign investment.
     
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    Are you another import sympathizer?
     
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    I already said several times that my main concern is Australia's long term interests, not short term as your talking about there.
     
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    I presume you are referring to Chinese or any other foreign nationals. I'm not a casual racist and I see nothing wrong with Any nationality leasing or in fact owning land, as long as they obey the rules and pay the taxes.
     
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    Australian folk for years and years have run farms and done it well.

    Your comments arguments are a redirrection to your loyalties which are not in the interest of Australian folk.

    Australian folk have paved the way for Wool (Macarthurs) and have been since colonization brilliant at doing what Australians do...farm.

    F you and you mates who would have Australians sell out our land to foreigners.

    So again?

    Who are you?

    Obviously you are not Australian and your interests are to sell Australian agricultural Beef land to your mates! F You!
     
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    That would be any foreign national.

    I'm even pissed that the US is in Darwin with 3,000 marines.

    Like...come to Australia and just F us over...take our land, take our homes...and don't even fire a shot!

    That dickhead before talked about socialism and communism...what about some prick in Government stand-up for keeping Australia for Australians.

    Having said that...the government approved a new airport on prime dairy country 20 K from Sydney. :| And they approve building on black soil but leave fging sandstone country as National park...genius :rolleyes:
     
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    So what's your full blooded background, Aboriginal? If not then you have no grounds for your argument. It was never your land in the first place.

    "because your family has history with war mongering mother-fuckers who invade or take over then sorry...that's not what Australian folk are about." that's exactly how Australia was born, warmongering and taking over :lol:

    Foreigners literally built this country to what it is so calm your tits, get over it and get on with it. Maybe even put down that Johnny Walker Red.
     
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    So House are you another foreigner that applauds the sale of the property to the Chinese?

    Perhaps you could provide your walker views as I'd be interested if they are commensurate with your buying skills of silver over the years you dip shite!
     
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    What sale? It didn't actually go through due to Gov intervention.

    Walker views? Never had it so can't give an opinion. I stopped buying silver about 2 years ago ;) Did you mean 'dipshit' or 'gobshite'? Either way I do like your makey uppy portmanteau.

    So, without deflecting again, what's your full blooded background?
     
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    Australia for Australians :D

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl_ndy61ON4[/youtube]
     
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    Hot discussion.

    Living on an island, and selling your food producing land to people who don't live on the island, and allowing them to own it with no obligation to provide food for people who live on the island, or care for the land to ensure its future viability, is rather shortsighted when one considers the generations to follow.

    And once again the politicians sell us out.

    How about Married at First Sight last night. Isn't he a pig?

     
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    You know full well what I'm asking. Pre raping and pillaging colonization of the Great Southern Land, where did your family hail from? Or are they more recent and grandpappy and great grandpappy arrived among the floods of immigrants over the last 100+ years?
     
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    But can you have an opinion in china.
     
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    You can have an opinion in China as long as it is not political.
     
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    Legislative mandates placed upon private companies would not ensure we have access to a reliable and quality food supply. How much effort or quality control on product supply do you think a company would go to if it is forced to provide goods to a local market for less profit? It would not be long before price pressures would bear down upon the viability of such a program and product quality/reliability would suffer. Legislative mandates are not working very well for our publicly owned companies/service providers some of which have a government monopoly, it would be an even greater failure in the private sector. Dumb socialism.

    It's dumb socialism (as if there is any other) because socialism has no price signals, or if there are it ignores them and subsidises the production/service process with other people's money. Mandates designed to force companies to supply a certain % of local market need result in waste, loss of productivity, higher prices for consumers and as a result, a loss in competition.


    Fearmongering.

    There is no evidence to suggest that foreign ownership of farming land will result in the destruction of our natural resources any more so than land that is owned by Australian interests. Furthermore, if you are intending to point to environmental degradation in China as proof of your assertion (as some here have in the past) then you are ignoring that we have different laws in this country, we have different social expectations and that the main reason the Chinese are buying up big overseas is because of domestic demand for clean food.
     
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    I completely agree.
    Hence from this day forth, no land may be sold to the Americans.
     
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    We live on a globe with finite resources and an increasing number of people dependant upon the resources.
    If you bothered to read history you will discover that there are really only two ways of obtaining the resources you require/desire. Trade or force.
    This is where we must walk the impossible line.
    There must be compromise. It is easy to sprout a simplistic nationalistic opinion which in reality would have negative consequences that far outweigh the benefits.
    The economies of the world are interlinked. We have already seen the affect of the ever popular cry of tariffs. The outcome is worse than the original condition. Why? Human behaviour. The tendency to scorched earth is strong.
    There must be a degree of sharing. We only see things from a "loss" perspective. We do not see that we also gain enormous advantage from cheap Chinese labour. Our homes are full of it.
    We can build enormous fences and spend incredible amounts of money defending these fences and we will all be worse off.
     

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