Jeweller's Copy (Sovereign)

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  1. Aurora et luna

    Aurora et luna Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I source this jeweller's copy recently.
    From discussions with other Sovereign collectors on this forum, it looks like a very good cast copy.
    The jeweller even left his maker's mark on the obverse. Weight is a little high at 8.02grams
    Suspect it is middle Eastern but any imput would be appreciated.

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    Wow..looks like a Chinese/Thai copy I think.The letters should be 916?who knows!
     
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    Aurora et luna Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Just an update on this Jeweller's copy.
    Nugget kindly loan me his fisch coin tester kit to see whether this copy would pass the test.
    Close but no cigar.
    Coin weights 8.01 grams (a little over-weight)
    Thickness test - Pass
    Diameter test - Pass
    Shape test - tight squeeze (All the other genuine Sovereigns I own fitted easily)
     
    Aurora et luna, Feb 20, 2012
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    Pictures of a 1864 British Sovereign to compare


    Source: [imgz=http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/1020_1864die26sovereignobv400.jpg][​IMG][/imgz]


    Source: [imgz=http://forums.silverstackers.com/uploads/1020_1864die26sovereignrev400.jpg][​IMG][/imgz]
     
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    The 1864 full Victoran shield sovereign is classed as a common coin as it had a mintage of over 8.5 million.
    It also had die numbers stamped on it with almost every number between 1 and 106 used in production.
     
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    Are 9ct jewellers Sovereigns common?

    Anyone have any? are they legal?
    And if they are legal, I suppose it isnt illegal to deface a fake/replica
     
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    I can't see any detail I'm afraid - the pic's too small - I've seen a lot of copies in the Middle East, all usually with some kind of maker's mark on 'em. They started doing this to make use of scrap gold and so the au content is usually lower than .916, but can range from .475 up to .900-ish, so strictly speaking this may not be a 'jeweller's copy' - might've just been used as a standard recognisable medium of trade...
     
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