Is Tax a neccesary evil ?

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  1. renovator

    renovator Well-Known Member

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    I say yes & have come to terms with paying my share & in all reality getting not much in return ( apart from the roads, bridges ,sewerage ,stromwater drainage, hospitals ,parks, streetlights, footpaths .,the police service , the army ,customs you know all those unneccesary things we dont need .... such is life :p:
     
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    It's theft.

    Having said that, I'm not opposed to a consumption tax to pay for minimal services.
     
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    Lol reno, are you challenging Redback?

    Channelling some W&F mojo?

    Let the flaming begin! ;)
     
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    Probably a jab at Auspm.
     
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    renovator Well-Known Member

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    So how would you collect tax on sewerage ? a turd tax per unit ?
     
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    I say no, we can all just trade potatoes and turnips for shorts made out of hessian bags and live in mud huts. The tremendous strengh gain by a diet of spuds and turnips would enable us to fight off our enemies, and the whole world would be a park, filled with butterflies and rainbows, so we wouldn't need all those "unneccesary things"
     
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    renovator Well-Known Member

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    No i seriously would like to hear thoughts on how we would pay for things if there was no tax .

    Where im at there is very little tax paid & the infrastructure shows it . I think theres a price to be paid for having the infrastructure & services ozzies have
     
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    Bar code each cable.

    Or, water and sewerage could be provided by a private company.
     
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    renovator Well-Known Member

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    No i seriously would like to hear thoughts on how we would pay for things if there was no tax .

    Where im at there is very little tax paid & the infrastructure shows it . I think theres a price to be paid for having the infrastructure & services ozzies have
     
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    Easy, have a scale mechanism in the toilet that weights the amount of turd produced in one outing which then sends the data to the government. Then find the average each australian produces. Put a tax on the sewerage treatment plants and have them pass on the costs onto consumers. :p
     
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    Is tax a necessary evil?

    100% undeniably, positively, definitively, incontrovertibly, indubitably NOT.

    ...and DanDee your a blinded sheep if you think the theft of other people's property is what separates your current lifestyle from hessian bags and mud huts.
     
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    In Dandeeland, would collect the turds as tax, make compost and sell it back to the peasants
     
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    Have a look at arab countries that dont tax the personnal income of their citizens. See their better infastructure and better everything. Then think about your comment again.

    Our mineral deposits will pay for everything and then some if we used them correctly.
     
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    Walter Block: If it moves, privatise it. If it doesn't move, privatise it.

    Privatise roads, bridges, sewerage, stormwater drainage, hospitals, parks, streetlights, footpaths,the police service, the army lighthouses, water, libraries, electricity networks, rubbish collection, health care, etc, etc and simply do away with customs altogether.
     
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    There's a term for when an organisation reaches the zenith of it's effectiveness and any growth after that consumes the purpose of the organisation and those reliant on it. But I can't remember it, James Rickards mentions it somewhere in "Currency Wars".
     
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    Tax would be OK if I thought they were spending it on something useful and not just wasting it.

    Paying for watertanks, giving out cheques for $900, paying for insulation, paying for solar panels, subsidising overpriced housing, school halls, schools.

    It is theft but if you left it to the general public to pay for the services they needed you would end up with rubbish bags piled up on the road and everyone would be inside watching the biggest plasma TV money could buy.
     
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    Averages ?Thats not fair what if your constipated for a week or have a low fibre diet? your paying for a service your not using same as what we have now .....FAIL
     
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    I would say yes and I'm happy to pay it but it's how this major source of Gov income is so non-chalantly wasted that makes me want to avoid paying it.
    40%+ of ones income is without a doubt in my mind excessive and they're squeezing the sheeple dry but most don't really care, it's part of their every day life. Fun times!
     
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    Cant tell if serious or not or wants a serious reply or not. In such a situation always end by looking cool :cool:
     
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    ? where did theft of other peoples property come from?
     

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