Indicators of hyperinflation

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  1. JulieW

    JulieW Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Lets not forget GS couldn't even predict the very GFC they created!...clearly this 'guru' hasn't read the signs .... :)

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  3. THUCYDIDES79

    THUCYDIDES79 New Member Silver Stacker

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    The photo above is a very powerfull and carefully crafted MEME.
    The global hegemon is signalling whats to be seen.
     
  4. JulieW

    JulieW Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Would you expand on that please. interesting concept.
     
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    THUCYDIDES79 New Member Silver Stacker

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    Well the ones on the left holding the sign and thinking of the ones around as 'sheeple' and the ones
    across the street as TPTB, i think are also the 'sheeple' themselves.

    The average Francois after the instigated French Revolution was not that much better of than before
    ( masons had their fingers in that pie )
    The average Boris after the communist Revolution ( and just before the revolution he would have been
    promised lots and lots ) also was not that much better of than before.
    ( masons again )
    The average Mehmet after the Revolution ( installation of Ataturk and disposal of Ottoman empire) was also
    worse off after the promises
    ( masons again )

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    so im just guessing that something is planned and things are not gonna be easy, and whatever is played out
    in the world and has GLOBAL promises of being a good thing ( LIKE WIKILEAKS, - the idea sounds great -
    lets expose the US and other goverments around the world for their lies and what not) is actually a TRAP.

    it must be, they have always used it before, what would stop them from recycling it again.
    and are we not on the 'brink' of THE NEW WORLD ORDER ??

    the new beast that will arrive, and be the next super power in the world
    ( like UK in 18th & 19th Century and british Pound's dominance as money of the world )
    WWI stopped that, and the world re-ordered itself to phase below
    ( like USA throughout 20th century amd $US dominance as money of the world)
    since end of WWII established and after Berlin Wall confirmed.

    Soo too, one could expect another war to re-order things a bit in the near future before 2022 definately .

    not only is USA as a govermental entity on brink of collapse, but their Money is imploding too.

    The next superstate/superentity ( could be a bank too ) to emerge will oppress like no other in the
    history of mankind.

    All money will be electronic, and you wont be able to even touch and smell money anymore, you want be
    able to put it aside for a rainy day, they will know of its existance. and all along they will be saying,
    "you have got freedom!"
    you can do this and you can do that, people ( as they do currently - dont you !?) will think that they have
    freedom, but they wont care due to

    " allow me to issue a nations currency and i care not who makes the laws " - this turbo money making
    concept was kept low profile for at least the last good 300 yrs, and now, they are facken so strong
    that they have substituted their paper in every corner of the world and are living of us.
     
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    The loser of a big pot in a no limit texas hold them match,
    always figures out ( but during the raising process thinks he is strong enaf )
    at the end that it was all a trap and he was being lead on thin ice.

    The people who are one side of the poker match and TPTB on the other, think, that they are
    raising and 'squeezing' the shorts ( HAHAHA ) TPTB knows, reacts and constantly adjusts to that,
    the next TPTB ARE CAREFULLY ORCHESTRATING THIS. IT would be naive to think
    that honest money will be introduced after the collapse, and even if it is the majority of the
    population wont have the means to buy it.

    look at old coinage of say Ethiopia, they had silver and gold as money 100 years ago and it
    circulated amongst the population.
    towards the end of the last century, the ethiopians were the POOREST people of the world.
    their coins gooone.
    same with Albania, they had silver and gold ( many nice commemorative issues too ) , their money was gone
    too.
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    with a bit of effort you can check and calculate how many hours you have to work in a certain country
    in order to afford to buy yourelf 1 oz of gold.

    here if u make lets say $25ph you will need around 56 hrs

    if you work in Bosnia ( where im originally from ) one would have to work for 100 hrs
    and in most other countries (non OECD) you will basically have to bust your balls of for that
    1 ounce of gold,
    and the IRONY is that their grandfathers had the gold and were promised certain things.
    and after 50 years all in PAPER, and now in 2010 we have 'TOO BIG TO FAIL ' concept
    hahaha
     
  7. fiatphoney

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    So are you calling the British empire a beast?
    The US of the 1940's a beast?
    The Anzacs of the 1940's who fought for our liberties (allowing immigration today, and instant access to govt assistance), a part of the beast of that age?

    Or is your use of the term beast more generic, like a Scottish woman I know who calls flies beasties.
     
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    Whoever holds the stick over the people and puts them straight into the line, so that the
    people in an orderly fashion line up at a counter in a bank with fear about their money is who i call a beast.
     
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    and that Scottish woman you know is right too
     
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    The world financial system is operating on the expectation of receiving payments from other parties, but if one in the line suddenly prove unable to meet their obligations, the result will be messy.
    The only key question left and waiting for answer now is; How long will the Fed have the ability to control of these ridiculously low rates, and when will market forces take over. Once setting rates to levels that reflect an increasing perception that no nation will be able to repay debt, the game will be over.



    "The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been two hundred years. These nations have progressed through this sequence. From bondage to spiritual faith; from spiritual faith to great courage; from courage to liberty; from liberty to abundance, from abundance to complacency; from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back into bondage." - Professor Joseph Olson
     
  11. JulieW

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgrOZbOWjUU&feature=related.

    Possibly so. Possibly so.

    I think tho that the USA is the Roman Empire and if you watch that decline, you'll see that it was not an instant collapse - a gradual decay. USA was and most likely still is richest, most powerful, most equipped to remain the world Empire. Granted they may be overrun by China or India, but not for a fair while.

    The video above shows a potential for a USA to remain THE world power, whilst solving their current crisis - using the Weimar Republic as the model. They have the people and the spirit and the ability to restructure their society using their history.

    I see a tribulation followed by a general settling of the world once again,. Perhaps USA will continue to wage war across the world for its economic gain and to act as 'world policeman'. Perhaps not. Either way we are heading into a new age and whilst not suggesting 'tin hats' (is that the term?), I think that being prepared for the sort of trials our parents and grandparents rode out is a good idea.

    I'm watching for hyperinflation portents since when it hits Australia and we have mortage rates up near 20 percent again, it is then that the investor bubble in housing will pop and those properties will be sold for beans. People will sacrifice all to maintain their residence and pay 20% interest - not so investment houses - even if the negative gearing seemed attractive at 7% interest.

    That is when hobo-jo's advice will have me at my solicitor's working out my retirement strategy.

    I was entering the workforce in 70's inflation - when you could have a job in the morning and if you didn't like it have different job in the afternoon (which I did). Your car would increase in value as the days went by regardless of how many miles it gained. My parents had a hard time because they had a mortgage. But I was young and debt free. No problem with any international bankers. Now I'm a bit older and wiser and so I watch the signs - and wait for the cycles.
     
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    Not sure when that video was made, but the debt clock from the same website shows 2 trillion more today
     
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    You are incorrect.

    WW2 ended in 1945 and although there was jubilation that the war ended, the country was mentally stuffed. From 1939-1945 there was no socialist welfare state nor rampant immigration in Australia.

    In 1946 a referendum was held, one of the three questions was related to social services (inserting s51(xxiiiA) into the constitution). This was adopted as law and was the beginning of the socialist welfare state in Australia. Although I have not validated the following point, I read that when you take into account informal votes and total registered electors the people of Australia actually rejected the social services question. This socialist agenda pushed through by the Labor Party was at a time when the country was fatigued by war and accommodating the returning veterans.

    In 1948 the federal parliament introduced the 'Nationality and Citizenship Act 1948'. This for the first time introduced citizenry in Australia - citizens are derived from Roman Law which is inconsistent with our Common Law heritage. I have also read that this Act, or parts of this Act was unconstitutional. This legislation was also at the same time the government was spinning the "populate or perish" policy. Again, this was pushed through by the Labor Party ministry.

    The ANZACS did not fight (and die) for a socialist welfare state or rampant immigration. The country was sold out by the socialist (i.e., communist) policies of the Labor Party. Not much has changed! (only perhaps the Libs are now just as bad)

    P.S. The government also devalued silver content of coinage from 92.5% to 50%. The nation was debauched by its own government following the war.

    P.S.S. One word of advice - when the government next tries to con you with a referendum question on a 'republic' make sure you vote NO or else the country will go into a terminal spiral and the rights you don't even know you have will disappear.
     
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    +1
     
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    I always like to read viewpoints based on historical events and facts.
    I respectfully acknowledge your point of view.

    However you miss the point of my post, and the context it was given. For I might agree with you, and your misconstrued viewpoint regarding my incorrectness.
    I find it hard to engage someone who is making their FIRST post, punching at a straw man.

    Try rereading some posts to get things in context; incl THUCYDIDES79 on other threads.

    The WWII Anzacs did fight for our liberties to ALLOW... our freedoms to chose democratically. Where the govt. and UN committees has taken us today is a totally separate issue.
     
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    - - The WWII Anzacs did fight for our liberties to ALLOW... our freedoms to chose democratically. Where the govt. and UN committees has taken us today is a totally separate issue. - -


    Ah, so the government made mistakes now, but not than!?

    mr Medved, fiatphoney is correct regards context of what has and is being
    discussed.

    Has the UK not dominated the world in that period mentioned above?
    Was the UK Pound ( paper from the first Central Bank in the world the Bank of England)
    not imposed upon the people and collonies.
    Were not famines in India present so that the trading british companies could
    produce even higher profits.
    Was not opium pushed onto the chinese?
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    and a list of other 'delinquencies' - in my books, the UK in that period
    was not the Beacon of Light that she has successfully marketed herself as,during
    that period in world history.

    Similar list can be written about the USA.
    Or any of the earlier European colonizing powers.
     
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    I was not addressing the whole post, just the quoted text. How is this punching a strawman? You implied (or it is easy to conceive you meant that) WW2 ANZACS fought for social welfare that was introduced after the war, and for immigration that was ramped up after the war. I do not necessarily agree or disagree with anything else you posted, but your quote was misleading.

    Whether it is my first or millionth post is irrelevant. Peace to you all. :)
     

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