How to detect if your gold is real or fake?

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  1. SteveS

    SteveS Member

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    Fake Perth Mint gold bars:


    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owh5zKwfmYY[/youtube]
     
  2. Zillas

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    @SteveS


    PerthMint has had certi cards from light green to dark green now they have a black color

    so this guy on youtube is explaining 50% of the info wrong ....
     
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    You are spot on GoldenEye. Gold clad Tungsten coins do not ring.

    I've got a Fisch Ringer and 22ct coins ring beautifully. 24ct coins give a very subdued ring due to their softness.

    Tungsten coins do not ring at all. When struck with a Fisch Ringer they go 'thunk' with no ring whatsoever.

    Google Fisch Ringer and you'll find a YouTube clip showing the above.

    You don't need a Fischer Ringer however. Just hold the coin in the centre with your thumb and middle finger nails and flick it, if it's gold you'll hear it ring.

    Regards

    Acorn
     
  4. Zillas

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    However you can check the following:
    There are Green cards that state on the front of the card Certicard Security Case. These have bar numbers on the back up to 6 digits.
    There are green cards that state on the front of the card The Perth Mint tamper-evident case these have bar numbers that being with an A.
    There are Black cards that state on the front The Perth Mint tamper-evident case these have bar numbers beginning with a B.

    This link may also be of assistance http://www.perthmintbullion.com/blog/blog/15-07-07/Another_Fake_Minted_Bar_To_Beware.aspx
     
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    Background

    Kangaroo Minted Gold Bars issued by The Perth Mint have evolved over time.

    The main design has remained consistent since the 5g bar was launched in 2009 with our official LBMA stamp (a swan motif surrounded by the words THE PERTH MINT AUSTRALIA) above the bar's weight and purity. Originally, the back of each bar was plain, but in 2010 we added a pattern of stylized kangaroos, which remains in force today.

    There have been three generations of security cards, including the black-coloured version featuring a swan 'water mark' (refer to earlier blog post).

    The original green card featured the CertiCard logo and the words SECURITY CASE on the front under the blister. These cards housed Minted Bars with plain and adorned backs, which when illuminated under a Wood (UV) lamp revealed the words SEAL INTACT. (See example).

    Issued from 2013, the second green card featured different security technology. Reflecting this, the front of each card displayed the words 'The Perth Mint tamper-evident card'. On the back, the bar number was preceded by the letter 'A'.

    Like today's black card, the word VOID is repeated around the edge of the blister if this card has been prized opened.

    How to identify the latest fake

    The latest fake to come to our attention purports to be a 1oz bar in an original green security card. Photographed in our office today, it is highly convincing.



    However, compare the line CertiCard SECURITY CASE on the front of the fake with the publicity product image below and you'll notice this counterfeiter has failed to align the text accurately, with the words forming a slight arc. (Having purchased this fake, you'd have been extremely disappointed to discover that the UV sensitive message does not exist!)



    The visible likeness of the bars and packaging indicates that counterfeiters are becoming increasingly sophisticated and unwary buyers could be falling into their trap more readily.

    As we've urged before, there is only one way to eliminate the risk entirely: purchase your Kangaroo Minted Gold Bars directly from The Perth Mint or an approved Perth Mint distributor
     
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    leo25 Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Good way to see if your gold bar is real :eek:

     
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    That was painful to watch.
     
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    Oddjob Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Would have been funny if it had been a gold plated tungsten bar.:eek:
     
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