how long will Trump last

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  1. Jim4silver

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    It's not just Republicans. I am not technically a Republican but have been a 2nd Amendment supporter all my adult life. I never supported any Republican until Trump. Thankfully, many former democrats who aren't socialists/progressives, etc, have left the democrat party. This does not get mentioned in the MSM because it cuts against their narrative that most Americans support the leftist/progressive agenda.

    Here are some quotes from our "founding fathers" regarding their view of why US gun ownership is important. If you read any of these quotes it is crystal clear how intelligent our founding fathers were and how stupid modern democrat and gun grabbing republican leaders are, as well as those who follow and/or agree with them.

    The funniest thing is sometimes the gun grabbers pretend that the 2nd Amendment was about "hunting rights". LOL! You'll hear morons like Joe Biden say "we don't want to take hunters' guns away, etc".


    "A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..."
    - George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790

    "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
    - Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

    "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
    - Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787

    "The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
    - Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776

    "A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785

    "I enclose you a list of the killed, wounded, and captives of the enemy from the commencement of hostilities at Lexington in April, 1775, until November, 1777, since which there has been no event of any consequence ... I think that upon the whole it has been about one half the number lost by them, in some instances more, but in others less. This difference is ascribed to our superiority in taking aim when we fire; every soldier in our army having been intimate with his gun from his infancy."
    - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Giovanni Fabbroni, June 8, 1778

    “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
    - Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

    "To disarm the people...s the most effectual way to enslave them."
    - George Mason, referencing advice given to the British Parliament by Pennsylvania governor Sir William Keith, The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adooption of the Federal Constitution, June 14, 1788

    "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops."
    - Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787

    "Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of."
    - James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788

    "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country."
    - James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434, June 8, 1789

    "...the ultimate authority, wherever the derivative may be found, resides in the people alone..."
    - James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788

    "The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."
    - Samuel Adams, Massachusetts Ratifying Convention, 1788

    quotes from website:

    https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/gun-quotations-founding-fathers
     
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    I don't know much about American politics, but as an outsider it appears to me that your Democratic party has been hijacked by foreigners and globalists. It is no longer an American political party. The treason that Trump is talking about suddenly makes sense.

    They are like malware, you need to scan and dig them out one by one. Trojans are especially difficult to get rid off. If the infection is very bad, maybe a full reformat might be better.

    Trump's trade war is having a huge impact on Singapore's economy and economies of South East Asia, but I see it as a necessary short term pain to ensure continued peace and prosperity in the Asia Pacific region. Looking at how the economy has been behaving in the past year, I believe that 1 more round of tariff hike will do the trick.
     
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    "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery"
    - Thomas Jefferson

    Yes!
     
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    the democrat, or republicrat
    some democrat in republican like Mc Caine did
    see the formation of Democrat you would laugh, why they were even allowed in the first place
     
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    And gay.

    That will count for lots of millenial and lefty votes. Even though the USA has already had their first gay and black president at the same time.

    My money is still on Tulsi for the upset, presuming a Trump loss. One hundred bucks at 150/1 Odds is a tasty longshot.
     
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    I'd love to see Tulsi win the day but I don't see it - she has to be nominated by the DNC.!

    Buttigieg is openly gay and that's a negative for all those religious blacks so he has to win them over. Don't know how you manage that. Obama kept his gay life (if ever there was one) independent of his presidential aspirations and I think either way race would win - being a black man would win the vote, gay or not. A white man may win the vote but gay crosses off a lot of names at the polling place. That's where Tulsi, being a 'proud woman of colour, and a veteran and a theist' could get in under the wire.

    Unfortunately USA is blinded by religion and regardless of the hypocrisy of action, if a candidate says 'god bless this US of A' then, if they carry it off, they've ticked one of the boxes that 45% of the population consider essential. Hillary was one of the most godless candidates ever but she never stopped ringing a bell for the faithful.
     
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    Valid points. As much as Tulsi says mostly the right things, I have heard her say woman of color once too often already.

    Still, the DNC have got nothing left to beat Trump. She could be their DJT moment if greed doesn't blind them.

    Happy to lose my $100 and see DJT win again. 2020 is going to be one very interesting year on planet earth.
     
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    I agree the Democrats have nobody to run against trump. Their hubris is endless though and they probably think the impeachment story and the never ending anti-Trump propaganda will win the day. One thing for sure is that they'll push one of their insider dinosaurs forth to go against Trump and probably lose again, and again the polls will be amazed at how they got it so wrong.

    Trump has been campaigning since he was elected and at this point the lines have been drawn. Impeachment is a sideshow that might work to derail an establishment politician, but that's not Trump. The way to unseat Trump is Buttigieg or Gabbard - young, fresh and unassailable by Trump's showbiz scattergun approach.

    The recent Joe Rogan podcast with Matt Taibbi is informative. He talks about Trump's rallies and the crowds. Trump is streets ahead and the race is nowhere near begun yet.

    Rogan and Taibbi for anyone interested.
     
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    They spend too much time promising freebies and not enough time focusing on their actual jobs. That's how they win votes.
     
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    Why is it that certain "minorities" need to wear their "victimhood" on their sleeves, and seem to demand some type of "bonus" for having such? I'm so sick of hearing people like Buttigieg go on about being gay and trying to use that as a victim card. Is that supposed to make him "special"? Or "I'm a woman of color". Who gives a fu%k. Every person has had some obstacles to deal with in their life and these folks are no different than anyone else in this respect.

    Tulsi Gabbard drones on about the "woman of color" BS to try and say that since she isn't white, somehow she is more honest or less racist, etc. I find this crap very insulting.

    What if a white candidate said, "vote for me, I'm the only white straight guy running in this race"? That's about the same vibe these "victims" are saying when they use their special status to gain points, albeit on a "woke" angle.

    The reason these folks use their alleged victimness is because they don't have anything else worthwhile to brag about.

    Remember the famous piano player and entertainer Liberace? That guy was gay, but you never heard him using that to gain fans. Yes it was a different time and he couldn't be "open", but everyone who saw him knew he was gay, yet he became famous with his musical talents. Not because of who he has sex with.

    If a person is really talented, etc, very few would care about their skin color or sex orientation. It is the left that makes everything about race and orientation, not the notorious evil dastardly "religious" folks, whomever they are.

    If Buttgieg had any real talent to be prez you would think of him for that, not as "the gay guy".
     
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    At least people like him wont reproduce. I wonder if he is the man or woman?
     
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    You have a higher opinion of the political intelligence of your voters than me it seems.

    I see this badge wearing as just appealing to the easy votes. I'm sure that X number of blacks voted for Obama because of his skin colour, just as a bunch of women voted for Hillary because she has a cervix.
     
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    Given Barry (aka Obama) is mixed race (50/50 black - white), he most certainly identified as being black for the votes...rather than "hey I'm half white too"...
     
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    Yeah. And that's so often the case.

    Why don't Aboriginals that are whiter than me embrace their Anglo heritage? It seems there are advantages to 'identifying' as anything but vanilla white.

    And so they do.
     
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