Hong Kong and Hong Kongs Future

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  1. alor

    alor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    its just 2% now, by then just a rounding error

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    I have the suspicion that what happened in HK is actually a proxy battle between various factions of the ccp and Xi's camp is on the defensive for now. Not as simple as it looks...
     
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    Nothing is ever black and white as the MSM like to portray, it is definitely multifactorial with a healthy slice of US interference.
     
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    mrsilverservice Well-Known Member

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    I won't be here :)

    I am getting buried face down so that this world can kiss my [email protected]#$ :D

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    The Book of Psalms Chapter 121 verse 8

    The Lord shall preserve your going out and your coming in from this time forth and forevermore :)
     
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    alor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    British over stay their 99 years since the take over, by 50 years. so China has no obligation to wait it to turn to 200 years.
     
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    alor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    https://www.fort-russ.com/2019/09/m...=wp&utm_campaign=push&utm_content=new-article
    MACHADO: Exposing The Atlanticist Color Revolution In Hong Kong
    By Raphael Machado – General Secretary, New Resistance (Brazil and Latin America); political organizer, commentator, and theorist; attorney at law

    Since March 31st, a series of protests have been underway in Hong Kong, which are said to have been motivated by an extradition bill that would allow extraditions from the territory of Hong Kong to mainland China. At first, the project aimed to request the delivery of a suspect, from Hong Kong, in a murder case, to Taiwan in February. However, it was later proposed by the government to also have transfers of fugitives to mainland China and Macau.

    Some groups, such as entrepreneurs, journalists and foreign governments were not satisfied with the idea, as it would increase the risk that in Hong Kong foreigners could be sent to be tried in China under Chinese laws. Among the unhappy was Taiwan, Atlanticist Island in the Chinese domain, claiming that with the new law Taiwanese citizens in Hong Kong would risk being moved to China.

    Several protests in Hong Kong, equal to many that we have seen arise from nothing in recent years in several countries not aligned with western globalism, such as the Arab springs, the maidan in Ukraine and anti-Maduro protests in Venezuela, in addition to the other “Color Revolutions”, such as the ones that took place in Eastern Europe from the 2000’s to take down sovereigntist governments and replace them with liberal puppets from the United States.

    As we know, these color revolutions do not arise spontaneously by a popular will, but are orchestrated by agents of external subversion, such as the CIA, open society foundations, by George Soros, NGOs serving American interests, among other groups that have the function to destabilize nations.

    For more than 150 years, Hong Kong was a British Colony, since part of it was surrendered to Britain after the first opium war (1839-1842). Soon after, China leased the rest to the British for a period of 99 years. In the early 1980’s, near the end of this leasing period, Deng Xiaoping’s Chinese government began negotiations with great Britain to regain its territory, staying firm that this would happen in 1997. According to the agreement, Hong Kong should follow a different political system than Chinese.

    However, in recent years, ” human rights ” groups have accused China of interfering in Hong Kong, by imposing on the territory measures that would be considered ” Anti-Democratic “. This is nothing different from what we have seen in the examples mentioned. The interesting thing is that demonstrations of human rights groups against countries aligned with western interests never occur, such as Saudi Arabia, for example, a country that according to the criteria imposed on the world by the west, would be the one that would most provoke such from opponents and journalists.

    Despite being separated from China for more than 150 years, victim of British imperialism, Hong Kong is part of China. About 96 % of its population is Chinese. Hong Kong did not leave China by popular will, but was ripped from its home country by force. It’s a Chinese territory that has been dismembered; Hong Kong’s return to China is just the repair of a mistake of more than a century and a half. Hong Kong is China, just as Kosovo is Serbia and the Falklands is Argentina.

    Our reservations about China and our opposition to its predatory trade policy should not change the fact that we must oppose the hegemonic projects of the globalists and globalism. Always.

    Freedom! Justice! Revolution!
     
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    alor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    like Trump said, it was a bad deal...
    so China has no obligation to it any longer
    there was no way Britain can act, PLA was there to liberate Hong Kong anyway
    PLA is in Hong Kong and will remain in Hong Kong
     
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    alor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    My takeaway is the Russian offer to share its weapon systems with USA to even things up.

    14.12 onwards.

    This is real news!

    Now the USA has to get naked if it wants to continue making war sounds at Russia.
     
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    Whilst over on MCNBC.......the big stories keep breaking.
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    Even if the Russian weapons were superior and cheaper to buy than develop in-house in the USA, the pollies and military contractors won't have a bar of it. From memory, the US has a long standing law that any military equipment they use has to be made in the US and under US control..........to ensure the US military contractors are protected.

    Back in the 1950's, the Canadian firm AVRO Canada designed and built the AVRO Arrow fighter that scared the pants of the US. Apparently so superior to anything the US had, Ike had to lean on the Canadian PM to ditch the program and buy old US surface to air missiles.....cos of the impact the Arrow would have on sales of US built fighters. Google AVRO Arrow and you'll find both news reports of the day, comparisons to then current jet fighters and how it stacks up against today's modern fighters.

    There's also a good movie from the 90's on the Arrow.

     
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    alor Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    show us the video of Trump's circumcision :rolleyes:
     
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    Chinese society is on the whole matriarchal, this is the exact opposite of Korean and Japanese societies which are male dominated. Even America is male dominated. Housing is a huge problem in a matriarch society, this is the cause of the unrest in HK. Men can live anywhere, in tent, in a caravan, but not women.
     
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    mrsilverservice Well-Known Member

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    Quote - this is the case here :rolleyes: are you talking about the SMALL island of Hong Kong just of mainland China o_O honestly what planet are you on,you must be related to my very very "special friend" juliew the queen of waffle :D

    Not woman just no land,your funny :D but just maybe extradition :)

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    The Book of Psalms Chapter 140 verse 13

    Surely the righteous shall give thanks to your name,the upright shall dwell in Your presence :)
     
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    China will mobilise PLA within a month to take control of Honk Kong city.

    Once protestors cross the line and are throwing live bombs at Riot Police, it is no longer demonstrations but either terrorism or separatist insurgency depending on who’s point of view.

    People might say it’s just a petrol bomb aka Molotov cocktail..... but if someone threw a Molotov cocktail at vehicle with police in it, it is attempted murder (the police survived)
     
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    mrsilverservice Well-Known Member

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    I cannot believe that this is still going on and has even ramped up with Molotov Cocktails being thrown,China cannot be happy :confused:

    I was expecting it will slow down but the Chinese seem to have plenty of holidays with the 70th anniversary of the Communist Party being the main reason at the moment with the "locals" seemingly determined to shove it in the Communist Parties face o_O

    Because this is still going I am wondering what might cause it to stop with the Chinese Army being at the top of my list.

    If the Chinese Army do make land fall in Hong Kong and assert their authority on the streets I expect the markets to tank big time :eek:

    What will eventually happen,time will tell and tell soon :confused:

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    The Book of Proverbs Chapter 25 verse 21 & 22

    If your enemy is hungry give him bread to eat,and if he is thirsty give him water to drink.

    For so you will heap coals of fire on his head and the Lord will reward you :)
     
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    Thousands of Souths Korean died and tens of thousands jailed in 1980s to win freedom and democracy.

    these HK protests are tame weak sauce.
     
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    The first Hong Kong protestor has been shot and apparently shot in the chest :eek:

    I read a sign hand written in paint on the wall in Hong Kong that said - if we burn you will burn with us o_O

    I wonder if some of the protestors have any weapons hidden away,if they do we might find out soon right or wrong :confused:

    Source - The Bolt Report

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    The Book of Proverbs Chapter 26 verse 17

    He who passes by and meddles in a quarrel not his own is like one who takes a dog by the ears :)
     
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    https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong...d-across-hong-kong-anti-government-protesters

    I don't see how this can end peacefully.
     
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