Gram gold

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  1. pug

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    I'm curious what the opinions & thoughts are on 1 gram gold fractionals.
    Who buys these and what for?

    There seems to be a market for it despite the high premium over spot. I'm curious why...

    1g Canadian maples are sold in sheets of 25.... for a premium of 15% over spot if you get a good deal.

    Apmex asks $54.29 ea for the 1 gr PAMPs if you buy an oz worth ... at spot price of $40.22 per gram.
    a premium more than 30% over spot
     
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    My thinking is that in a complete breakdown of the fiat currency system this small 1gm would be a good barterable item for fuel, a supply of food, water, etc. where trust in Money & currency is lacking. _JOHNLGALT.
     
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    Probably the best way to do this is via a reply to you .
    Gold Stackers website has some VALCAMIE gold advertised.
    Different name, same stuff. CHEERS. VALCAMBIE.JPG
     
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    I already got a sheet of VALCAMBI 25 x 1g gold in case of fiat breakdown as John says. Also got 2 x 100g sheets of VALCAMBI silver bars and a few tubes of 50 x 1/10g silver coins.
     
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    Great combination you've bought. I went for the tubes of 1/10 oz. & 1/4 oz. silver when G.S, had them a couple of years ago.
    It was an expensive way to buy silver, but I own them now and will never sell them, they are for barter only.
    I visited the VALCAMBI website and they are one of the great mints.
     
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    I expected 1g to be too small for people with size envy
     
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    E1605E41-F0BE-428C-8AF9-8686A47CE28F.jpeg For me the premium is too high on fractional stuff. If things really do revert to the old ways I’ll just use a hammer and cold chisel.
     
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    LOL, Don't forget to buy some scales so you don't get diddled in the trade (laughing again).
     
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    HaHa -

    Hopefully it never comes to that and we can all take comfort in simply been prepared.
     
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    Had been having similar thoughts. Already have some 1oz Perth Roo's in the inventory but this thread is helping make my mind up on fractional gold. Ta all.
     
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    For me quarter ozs is the smallest. 1 gm is too small and not worth paying the premium.
    As to SHTF, it ain't gonna happen!
     
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    Don't Care. JOOLIE. (Alleged Stalker)
     
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    "Had been having similar thoughts. Already have some 1oz Perth Roo's in the inventory but this thread is helping make my mind up on fractional gold. Ta all."

    Thanks for your input. Joolie just happens to follow anything I post & Post a different thread on the same forum very quickly. TROLLING for TPTB, (I would say)
    Pretty in pink Joolie.
     
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    I have monster boxes the 1oz silver roo coins and like them b/c they all have the micro security engaving from 2016 to date.
    With the fractional silver my line of thought is that if/when the price of silver is reset to say $800-$1000/oz or more then 1g or 3g (1/10 oz) silver would be good to use to purchase/barter with for smaller items you need. IMO the premium you pay now will be irrelevent in a reset Plus it is all stamped with 999 purity. I considered getting the old aussie coins with silver in them but the silver in them is odd weights with fractions of a gram etc. I do have some 1966 50 cent peices which contain minutely over 10g of Ag which is 1/3 oz of Ag per coin.

    The only outlet in Australia I could find in Australia for 1/10 silver USA Walking Liberty coins is PerthBullion http://www.perthbullion.com/shop/listings/fractional-silver-coins.

    For 1/4 oz silver coins I got tubes from Golden State Mint/USA https://www.goldenstatemint.com/1-4-oz-fractional-silver-rounds/
    If buying these I found it best to choose UPS for delivery option as they were much faster as compared to USPS.
     
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    also with the Valcambi silver 1g x 100 bars I got them from SilverGoldBull in Canada as I could not find any oulets in Australia that sold them. Note they have an Australian domain/URL page but they are not in Australia. I just checked and they are out of stock atm.

    https://silvergoldbull.com.au/fractional-silver-bars-gram-size

    With reported hyperinflation and PM reset in Venezuela as an example it is reported that 1 oz silver will buy 6 months of food. That is if you can find food any in stores. So 26 weeks of food for 1 oz = 1.2 g Ag approx per week to feed 1 person. So 100 x 1 g Ag hypothetically would buy 1 person 80 weeks approx of food. In my mind it does not hurt to prepare for a worst case scenario.... hopefully it does not come to that but as tongkat said previously it gives one peace of mind. I watched a vid recenlty , that as reported by a local, 1 oz Ag in Venezuela is worth USD $2000 approx.
     
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    Silver to Gold Ratio is now 83.5 to 1 if anybody is interested.
     
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    This is all new to me John, where do you get the most accurate ratios from?
     
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    click on the charts tab
     
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    Welcome to Silver Stackers SilAuOz, nice choice of a name.
    If you click on the charts in the black ribbon near the top of the page, then whip your calculator out and divide the gold price by the silver price, you have the current ratio at the time.
    CHEERS. _JOHNLGALT.
    p.s. At this time 4.25.am Monday morning it is.......
    RATIO NOW.JPG
     
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    No need for a calculator crayon boy, there is a gsr chart
     
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