"Global Warming" Anomalies.

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  1. GoldenEye

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    What about the petition by over 30,000 scientists casting doubt over man made climate change. Seems to be ignored by the MSM.

    http://www.petitionproject.org/
     
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    From 1978. NYT. Funny how the historic record has been deleted and fake data inserted once the hoax got traction.

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    Those Anglia “scientists” are corrupt beyond belief. They abandoned all principles and everything that is pure about science in the name of greed and activism.
     
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    He understands human behaviour ... that's why he knows people will not do a damn thing about it ...
     
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    I voted for that, wonder if it was counted

    PS I have economics degree
     
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    I understand that the two major problems with carbon dioxide levels being so high are: Acid Rain killing off the oceans, trees etc. Soot particles dropping at the poles, heating up and melting ice.

    I also see that a solution may be to re-institute the tree cover that humans have been merrily removing for the last 150 years or so.

    All this points to the need for action of some sort, but I'll be dead and gone so good luck to you and your families in the brave new world of mushroom meat and fish in museums.
     
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    How about all the positives of global warming
     
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    Gotta love them Finns for bravely destroying their academic careers. One shall not utter a contradictory opinion to climate change in Finland, poor fellows will be ostracised from academia for life soon enough.

    @JulieW I share your concern about the oceans. For the poles I would not be so worried, winter is coming and all that.

    Someone posted a quote from Jurassic Park in the comments section.. now Crichton was a vocal opponent of the anthropomorphic climate change theory. Perhaps he was on to something with his book "State of Fear"? ;)

    “You think man can destroy the planet? What intoxicating vanity. Let me tell you about our planet. Earth is four-and-a-half-billion-years-old. There's been life on it for nearly that long, 3.8 billion years. Bacteria first; later the first multicellular life, then the first complex creatures in the sea, on the land. Then finally the great sweeping ages of animals, the amphibians, the dinosaurs, at last the mammals, each one enduring millions on millions of years, great dynasties of creatures rising, flourishing, dying away -- all this against a background of continuous and violent upheaval. Mountain ranges thrust up, eroded away, cometary impacts, volcano eruptions, oceans rising and falling, whole continents moving, an endless, constant, violent change, colliding, buckling to make mountains over millions of years. Earth has survived everything in its time. It will certainly survive us. If all the nuclear weapons in the world went off at once and all the plants, all the animals died and the earth was sizzling hot for a hundred thousand years, life would survive, somewhere: under the soil, frozen in Arctic ice. Sooner or later, when the planet was no longer inhospitable, life would spread again. The evolutionary process would begin again. It might take a few billion years for life to regain its present variety. Of course, it would be very different from what it is now, but the earth would survive our folly, only we would not. If the ozone layer gets thinner, ultraviolet radiation sears the earth, so what? Ultraviolet radiation is good for life. It's powerful energy. It promotes mutation, change. Many forms of life will thrive with more UV radiation. Many others will die out. Do you think this is the first time that's happened? Think about oxygen. Necessary for life now, but oxygen is actually a metabolic poison, a corrosive gas, like fluorine. When oxygen was first produced as a waste product by certain plant cells some three billion years ago, it created a crisis for all other life on earth. Those plants were polluting the environment, exhaling a lethal gas. Earth eventually had an atmosphere incompatible with life. Nevertheless, life on earth took care of itself. In the thinking of the human being a hundred years is a long time. A hundred years ago we didn't have cars, airplanes, computers or vaccines. It was a whole different world, but to the earth, a hundred years is nothing. A million years is nothing. This planet lives and breathes on a much vaster scale. We can't imagine its slow and powerful rhythms, and we haven't got the humility to try. We've been residents here for the blink of an eye. If we're gone tomorrow, the earth will not miss us.”
     
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    We do have environmental problems, but it's certainly not man made global warming that we're spending billions of dollars on and making all the sacrifices for.

    So it's obvious that the powers that be know that man made global warming is a hoax, so you have to ask the question, why are they trying to impose this idea and expense on the world?
     
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    It is a tax on fear and uncertainty ...
     
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    Control, socialist doctrine of wealth redistribution (with the bankers clipping the ticket on the way through).....and a way to tax the air you breath.
     
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    Here's some good news. From The Guardian.

    Now I'm pretty much sure that nearly everywhere in Australia is closer to Tennant Creek than Singapore.

     
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    The NT plan follows a similarly ambitious proposal for the Pilbara, where another group of developers are working on an even bigger wind and solar hybrid plant to power local industry and develop a green hydrogen manufacturing hub. On Friday, project developer Andrew Dickson announced the scale of the proposed Asian Renewable Energy Hub had grown by more than a third, from 11GW to 15GW. “To our knowledge, it’s the largest wind-solar hybrid in the world,” he says.

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    These developments are still at relatively early stages of planning. Both teams say it will be four years before they lock in finance, with production scheduled to start mid-to-late next decade. But renewable energy watchers are cautiously optimistic they could help spark a new way of thinking about Australia’s energy exports – one that better aligns with the country’s commitment to the Paris climate agreement, rather than broadening a fossil fuel trade at odds with it.

    Opponents to Australia taking significant action on the climate crisis often point out the country is responsible for about 1.4% of greenhouse gas emissions, placing it about 15th on a table of carbon-polluting nations. A recent report by science and policy institute Climate Analytics makes the case that this underplays Australia’s contribution, which increases by 5% if fossil fuel exports are included.


    The latter figure is expected to increase over the next decade. Australia is the world’s biggest exporter of coal and rivals Qatar as the leader in selling liquified natural gas (LNG). There is bipartisan support for a significant expansion of both industries, though government economists anticipate export earnings from coal will fall.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environ...plan-to-power-singapore-with-australian-solar
     
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    Yep. I'm no electrical engineer, but I know why power generation sources are close to the population you supply....cos the electricity power generated loses it's punch over distance...the longer the distance, the greater the dissipation. Tennant Creek is a long way to SG.
     
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    what happened to Venezuela now in America, its a black hole :)
     
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    Apparently China is breaking the rules for long distance power transmission. It seems to be very possible.
    HVDC (high-voltage direct current) with a max distance of 3400km. This puts Australia and Singapore within range.

    Well i learned something new today :) Looks like old man Edison had the right idea with DC and Tesla was right regarding high voltage.
    The wisdom of the Old El Paso girl wins again "why don't we have both"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultra-high-voltage_electricity_transmission_in_China

     
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