Global Minimum Wages

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  1. mmm....shiney!

    mmm....shiney! Administrator Staff Member Silver Stacker

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    That's what Karl Marx believes and why he hates capitalists and is opposed to profit.
     
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    Well if theres no capitalists who will have enough money to run big businesses. Should they all be government owned? Or we shouldnt progress because of lack of funding ?
    Karl marx must be a raving lunatic to run a business without profit .How can you pay wages ,rent etc? what a fruitcake .He should go live in north korea
     
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    Anyone with half a brain says it cant & wont happen . Theres no harm in dreaming but theres a difference between dreams & fairytales
     
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    That's okay. You can leave those of us with a full brain to worry about it ;)
     
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    Well that explains a lot. :lol:
     
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    Oh stop it boys you will make me cry :p: Half a working brain is better than a full one thats cluttered with so much shit it cant function properly . There is more chance of seeing aliens than changing the systems/ goverments

    Keep dreaming ....it doesnt hurt to dream :lol:
     
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    Oh man i thought that pic had been destroyed . send me the negative & i send you a cheque ....again .
     
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    There's something disturbing about your smile in that photo reno, I am constantly being drawn to it..........................................which, considering your attire, is a positive I guess. :lol:
     
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    I agree with what they said about it being important to attract the right kind of people... But so far it has failed miserably.
     
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    Fiji looks set to introduce a national minimum wage of $2.32/hour.

    http://www.fbc.com.fj/fiji/14060/new-proposed-minimum-wage-rate-welcomed

    This is the Keynesian approach to economics ie the market can be understood and manipulated using formulae. The poor wage rate is apparently responsible for poverty in the country. Let's forget for a moment that Fiji has been beset with political turmoil, racial problems and a declining industrial base (it can hardly be called a developing country, more like a contracting country) - poverty exists in Fiji because people are paid poorly. Not because there is very little demand for Fijian products or is corrupt or whatever else hinders the country, its because the workers are paid poorly. So if you want to increase everyone's standard of living, what do you do? Increase the pay rate.

    The ILO applaud it, social activists applaud it even the Fiji Commerce and Employers Federation applaud it. Why not increase it $10/hour which the Unions are asking for? That would make all workers 5 times richer. Nah, increase it to $100/hour and make the Fijians the richest people in the world. That's bound to solve that little poverty problem they have. Might give the Samoans hope for their future too.

    God its simple isn't it?
     
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    Haven't got a sarcasm picture, maybe bordie will help out again.
     
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    So that settles it then, minimum wages can only be a bad thing :)
     
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    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct1Moeaa-W8[/youtube]
     
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    Good video.

    Interestingly, before he entered Parliament and became Labor's Shadow Assistant Treasurer, Dr Andrew Leigh was a professor specialising in labour economics. He found that reducing the minimum wage in Western Australia by 10 per cent would increase employment by around 3 per cent within three months.

    As David Leyonhjelm pointed out in a recent AFR article:

     
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    That is quite interesting.
    I'm quite surprised actually that something as blatantly obvious as the harm that minimum wages causes isn't more widely understood.

    The issue is so simple, it is so clear that forcibly increasing the wages of some, necessarily takes it away from others.

    Maybe I have into economics so long (not very long) that I've lost touch with how stupid some regulations are.

    I came across a new one today, payroll tax. This is to date the most idiotic ridiculous tax I have heard of to date (and in current use). As soon as a business passes a yearly wage threshold, they have to pay an extra 4.57% on top of the wages. WTF !?
    Aren't we supposed to be increasing employment ?
     
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    5.45% in NSW
     
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    "If an alcohol tax is supposed to reduce alcohol use then wouldn't a payroll tax reduce employment." (Forget who said this)
     

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