Global Minimum Wages

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  1. bordsilver

    bordsilver Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Sorry, what others? Besides the obvious exceptions which are not the point of this discussion, everyone has their person which they can trade as they see fit for other people's property and/or build their own (ie work just like the generations of people before them).
     
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    Yes BS whatever you say . There is no point argueing or debating with someone who believes they are always right ..key word "believes"
     
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    bordsilver Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Exactly. So please stop derailing other people trying to have a rational debate and you can go on believing whatever tripe you wish.
     
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    So a foreign worker could come here and work for lower wages? Like I said, you're cherry picking what's on sale and what's not.
     
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    In a free economy - yes.

    Currently - no.

    Is the former a problem? - no.

    Is the latter a problem? - yes.

    Minimum wages restrict competition, and they benefit some at the expense of others.
     
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    "Is the former a problem? - no."...........Whoa..........What do you mean?

    There's no problem that 85% of our mining is foreign owned and almost all the profit goes off shore? That young people are locked out of housing in their own country? So you want a free market with asset sales but not wages?
     
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    young people are locked out of housing ? lol you were going good until you spat that out .. It might be harder than it was decades ago but they are definately not locked out
     
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    Meaning, a free economy with no government meddling of wages. Not a problem at all

    Nope, someone's gotta own it. And I'm not sure if all the profit does go offshore. I would tend to think much of the cost of maintaining such an investment would remain onshore.

    I don't have a problem with that at all. It's not my problem I look after my own children, I don't expect anyone else to look after them.

    My free market means exactly that, free. No minimum wages, no price manipulation. It always strikes me as being rather absurd and hypocritical that the majority of people are in favour of minimum wages for labour yet rail at price fixing for goods. Aren't they the same? :/
     
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    Thanks for the encouragement. Most are locked out but that argument's for another day. I've got enough on my plate. You watch, they won't answer my questions.
     
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    Yes. Correct, they are all the same and damage the massive advantage we HAD. We will now lose the whole lot.
     
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    I thought you agreed with minimum wage and price manipulation ?
     
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    Who me? No fking way.
     
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    preventing people from coming into the country to work is a form of price manipulation
     
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    Could you use the quote button please? I'm not smart enough to follow otherwise. If it's me, you're talking to, I am all for price manipulation of all kinds to protect Australia.
     
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    Right now I am getting less confused. You basically don't believe in private property rights or people's rights to do with their person as they wish and instead believe that an omnipotent central planner can exist to direct resources around the economy to optimise the bunch of criteria that you think should be optimised (whatever those criteria may be - kids welfare, great, great grandchildren access to resources, housing prices etc). This is actually not possible and - as demonstrated by the real life experiment of the USSR - generates far more misery than the alternative.
     
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    It doesn't need to be to the extreme of the USSR. Just keep our country Australian owned. If we didn't populate it's all possible but that's not the agenda of big business and politicians. You need to know when you're being scammed. We have been murdered over the past thirty years.

    I guarantee with 100% certainty, the day will come, you'll wish we protected our country.
     
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    Dude, I know there are LOTS of things wrong with our society (there are also many, many more that are right about it however, which is why Australia is still one of the best societies in the world). What we/I are trying to ascertain is how your solution differs from ours/mine.
     
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    You can't guarantee anything, especially that ridiculous assertion.
    Just halfway to that extreme ?
    So you just want to make everyone poorer a substantial amount, or maybe just a small amount.
    Good idea, why don't you start with yourself and give the ATO a bonus every year.
     
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    Mine's sustainable. Yours is horrendously unfair to future Australians.

    "(there are also many, many more that are right about it"........That will change soon. This thread is about Global Min Wages. That is what will happen.
     
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    You're not going to understand what I'm saying no matter how many different ways I put it.
     

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