Fuel price 'to da moon'

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  1. spannermonkey

    spannermonkey Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Lot's they just disappear very quickly

    Fuels
    Plenty of inventors have come up with water powered vehicles
    Battery tech has been bought up by " big oil " over the decades

    Nuclear power plants could be run on " Thorium " very easily
     
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    What do those have to do with replacing silver in solar panels?
     
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    spannermonkey Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    All are fuel alternatives, all part of the issue
     
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    Have you read those articles? They confirm what I just said.
    There is nothing to replace silver at this time.
    Even if they cut the silver in half that's only about $10 difference. Not a big deal.
     
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    Court Jester Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I read them and silver can be replaced entirely with minimal effiency loss

    The amount of silver used in these panels has. Massively dropped and is still dropping again only fools think pvs will save smart people know better silver I guess that makes you the former
     
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    Yes the amount of silver has dropped since pv was first invented. It has not been replaced and wont since theres no reason or benefit. Thanks for confirming.
     
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    pd is $2k an ounce and they haven’t found a replacement for it because they have been improving the efficiency for pd catalyst (reducing the amount used) for so long it’s not as simple as just a one to one replacement with cheap platinum.

    Corporation don’t generally replace something just because there is a cheaper alternative. It has got to be better, not just cheaper because if you’re going to replace silver with aluminium or copper, customers are going to ask if this will impact ROI and the lifespan for a panel. They are not going to accept a lower lifespan or ROI because with $20-$40/hour technician wage, the labour cost for replacing an inferior panel is half the cost of the panel, not to mention future inflated material cost.

    Maintenance is very expensive and replacing even just wires on solar panels installed on roofs can costs hundreds of dollars per wire even when the material cost of the wire itself is only 1 dollar.

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    There is a benefit as silver is expensive and replacing it would save money the fact is silver use in pv has dropped significantly and is still dropping and can be replaced 100%right now
     
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    Do it then. What's the hold up?
     
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    There are alternatives but they are expensive in comparison to using silver.

    Copper is also getting very expensive over the years and is a bigger problem than silver since large quantities are used but so far they haven’t found a cheaper substitute like some aluminium material.
     
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    They are doing it hence the big reduction and it will go to zero again your a idiot if you think silver use in pv will do anything in the future for silver price but I guess you are an idiot
     
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    You constantly drink too much and go around calling anyone who doesn't agree with you an idiot. Can you grow up? It's not necessary to be so toxic on a mature forum.
     
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    Court Jester Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Hrmmm what makes you think I've been drinking some views are stupid and need calling out and I believe there are no stupid views just stupid people
     
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    Any view is good in my opinion, there is certainly a point to CJ's views. There's a lot of disinformation out there.

    I remembered in the years leading up to 2014 everyone is saying about peak oil, blah blah blah.... I dabbled in oil stocks, make a little and lost some, one oil mining stock dropped from $14 to $1. The markets are highly manipulated in the short to medium term, and there's no logic in what determines value - the only logic is to buy only when it's super cheap.

    Bitcoin, $10? Buy! Silver $13? Buy! Gold, $1100? Buy! However, after buying, we have to create all sort of justification for the reason we bought the thing. The reason itself is more for self-comfort.

    We can come out with a lot of reasons to buy silver, but the only real reason is that it is cheap. Now, the question is what price is considered cheap? $14? $16?

    After buying, the only thing to do is to wait...wait...wait, and decide what price to sell.
     
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    He changes his story every 5 minutes and no conception of reality.
    Silver isnt going anywhere but he thinks solar panels affect silver prices.
    Wake up Englishman.
     
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    A couple of things I noticed in the recent 2-3 months for silver.

    1. Around Sept/Oct, massive buying of 1000 oz bars in Singapore, sold by a dozen per week. This slowed down after mid-Nov and ended after the Christmas spike.

    2. Secondary market for low premium silver in Singapore dried up after August - I was able to scoop a good amount at just below $17 in early July. Nowadays I don't bother to check online as on one is selling low premium silver. The market basically disappeared after silver broke $17 in August. I wanted to get another 100 oz low premium silver but there is none for sale. Did managed to get some at a local dealers 11/11 sale.

    3. Sudden spike in low premium silver sales on this forum from the beginning of Dec.

    My conclusion is that smart money is buying, but they are not chasing. Only buying when the price drops to $17. I can understand what the smart money are doing - they are using silver to park capital (upside doesn't matter), they don't mind even if silver goes sideways, what is important is the downside is limited since the cost of mining is $12-$15 average. They are using silver as "money". Yes, silver is starting to become money. Not for transactions but as a bank account.
     
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    No I don't I am 100% in the solar does not affect the silver price at all that was my entire point posting here, this comment just re affirms my post above there are no stupid views just stupid people
     
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    Haha good times. You can have the copper ones, I'll keep the silver.
     
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    Getting interesting, a couple days later, people are talking about $150 oil.
     
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