Freemen story on news.com.au

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  1. rbaggio

    rbaggio Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Link: http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/re...d/news-story/cd91441f8f406a48457d5450b0a264f9

     
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    Didn't we have one or two of these guys on here a while back?
     
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    I keep misreading it as Fremen, and then am disappointed no one wants to talk about scifi novels.
     
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    if you are free, truly the law does not apply to you, since you never accept that that is the law, that is not the law you should obey.

    why are you forcing these free people your law on them, can you just use their law on you???

    if you can trial run in absenteeism, why not run it every single time in your own kangaroo court of law, I prefer the koalas ones.

    it will always work if you are someone who can call down fire from the sky, every time when you deal with the so call official people, you call your fire down on them.

    it would be a real headache for them trying to deal with you before getting smokey themselves. just like in life fantasy.
     
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    I think they're "on holiday".


    :D
     
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    ah - bit of a "roman" holiday is it?
     
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    ^^ I dunno, I have a mate who fought punitive toll fines with a similar argument and last I heard they'd simply let it go. There was an issue with his chip or whatever, and by the time he had heard about it the fees had mounted to completely unreasonable levels, and he sent the actual amount owing along with an explanation that he had never agreed (or formed a contract) to pay any extra charges on top of the posted toll.

    He also refuses to have his bag searched by checkout chicks on a similar basis - if there's no reasonable grounds to suspect him of a crime, there's no justification for invading his privacy. Walking past a sign saying "You agree to XYZ" is not enforceable, otherwise why don't we all just wear t-shirts saying "I am free to steal whatever I want" :)
     
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    +1000 ;)
    Great explanation of what is really happening and is just as valid over here...

    Once you realize that the "government" is in fact a private company you'll find that there is actually very little difference ;)
     
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    it is every individual right to question each verse of law that is going to be applied to them, its their right to challenge all the law.
    they are the conscious people, else the law is blind.

    its the common people and only the common law apply to them.

    for Snowden, the common law does not apply, since he is a CIA asset.
     
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    a few years ago, yes. I remeber watching the video linked too.
     
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    Wasn't the corporate status of the Commonwealth simply created as a representation of an entity that couldn't be brought to court? And it's a Stautory Corporation, not a Registered Corporation and therefore exempt from public authority so doesn't come under the Corporations Act that you can/can't choose to contract with...
     
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    It does make me wonder...

    Probably worthy of a new thread, but weren't there new laws brought in to charge people for "funding terrorism"? I am sure there was some precedent recently with a girl charged for sending like $20 to ISIS. But then if these Sovereign Citizen guys are also classified terrorist then suddenly a lot of people might get into trouble.

    I mean, consider that many SS members are sending EFT payments to others to purchase PMs, but from the banks perspective they just see money going to a bank account that could be associated with a group like Sovereign Citizens. Is there a risk that some of us could be charged with funding terrorism if we're buying PMs from someone who we don't know has been classified a domestic terrorist threat? Would it be up to us to prove we didn't know.

    Maybe I'm just being paranoid.....
     
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    The "corporate status" of the Commonwealth is largely due to it being more efficient to treat it as a corporation for administrative purposes.

    e.g. How do you use a regular accounting software package to generate an invoice for a government department if it's not using the same ABN, company registration, GST status, bank accounts and other details that everyone else uses? How do you hire staff with private sector experience if all the admin systems and procedures are completely different with little to no cross-over?
     
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    Don't spoil a good conspiracy theory Big A.D. ;)
     
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    rbaggio Active Member Silver Stacker

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    I thought it needed to have a "corporation" entity so it could issue bonds on global markets.
     
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    Sounds a bit like anarchy to me.

    OC
     

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