Fraser Anning - The Rise and Rise of a Complete Moron

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  1. Oddjob

    Oddjob Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    So I saw Fraser's comments today and the updated posts in this thread and it got me thinking so I did some reading today and a few things come to light.

    1) The Muslim population is circa 600k in Australia according to last census which is about 2.0% of the total population
    source: http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/[email protected]~2016~Main Features~Religion Data Summary~70

    2) NSW and Vic Govt's, nor the Australian Commonwealth Govt (The Australian Institute of Criminology) do not collect data on crimes by religion, thus I made the leap the ABS doesn't either. Also can't find same on ABS website.
    source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-21/fact-check-fraser-anning-muslim-crime-nsw-victoria/10133028

    3) According to a 2013 NSW Prisons census, Muslims accounted for about 9.3% of the state’s prison population compared with 3.2% of the NSW population.
    source: https://www.theguardian.com/austral...-australian-prisoners-are-converting-to-islam

    4) The Global Terrorism Database, an open source database run by the University of Maryland - USA contains data from 1970 to Dec 2017.
    • A search of the data base for Australia shows 117 recorded crime / terror / terrorists incidents in that time. Of that 117, 9 are confirmed to Jihadi / Muslim extremists (dating back to the PLO in 1970) plus there's a few other incidents with an unknown perpetrator/s at religious sites (Christian, Jewish and Muslim) but won't count those even though some are muslim on muslim events from memory re mosque attacks.
    • Thus over a 47 year period, Jihadi / muslim extremists account for 8% of known terror classified crimes according to this data base. Add in two known events in 2018 and the percentage increases to 9% and this doesn't include those terror plots which were stopped by police / Aust Intel.
    • If I only look for the time period from 2010 to 2018, the number of crime / terror / terrorists incidents is 39 with 10 attributable to Jihadi / muslim extremists which is 26% of known terror classified crimes.
    • For the sake of the discussion assuming all other terror classified crimes in the 2010-2018 period (which was 29) was carried out by the rest of the Australian population (of all religious identities inc atheists but excluding muslims) which is circa the balancing number of 98%, this group only has 74% of such terror classified crimes attributable to them.

    https://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/
    https://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/searc...es_type=&casualties_max=&country=14&count=100
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Australia


    Thus whilst this is quick and dirty data analysis and many will say you can prove anything with stats, the above shows that those Australian residents who identify as muslim are over represented in both prison population numbers and terror classified crimes (1970 to 2018 and 2010 to 2018) as opposed to their population percentage of the Australian population.

    Now that's the facts...the bigger and more important question which the media and Govt don't want to touch is WHY !

    Paul Sheehan wrote an opinion piece for the SMH back in Jan 2015 which dared touch on the global issue and stats.
    https://www.smh.com.au/opinion/these-crimes-have-everything-to-do-with-islam-20150111-12lxmn.html

    I'm not an apologist for Fraser but someone in his position should have some facts to back up their comments. Love him or hate him, Fraser in general appears correct on his position re Islam.....but like Pauline, presentation can be poor and ill considered / prepared in the main.
     
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  2. JOHNLGALT

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    Thanks, but I feel inadequate, I don't feel complete. You would probably fit the bill better (alleged) SCUMBAG.
     
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    Sorry shiney.
    Whilst our views usually align perfectly, I am beginning to think Anning has a point. It is just a point that many are thinking, but aren't allowed to express without recrimination due to over-zealous PC. As another post duly highlights - where the fk is Jacinda Adern today? Doesn't suite her agenda?
    And Waleed Aly... no pompous, patronising lecture? Nothing but finger-pointing from him tonight.
    IMHO 95% of the problems in this world can be attributed to all religions.... the other 5% can be attributed to entitleist, left-voting fktards.
    Start with the religions first, and get rid of them all.
     
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    I'm not even sure where he lives but he has this view, which is shared by those both on the left and on the right, that he is a spokesperson for the whole of Australia. He should concentrate on the issues affecting Qld.

    We don't have problems with Muslim youth running riot in the streets where I live (we have some problems with black kids at times), we do have problems with southerners interfering in our local industries, they are a bigger problem than Muslim migrants and is where he should be focussing his attention. His opposition to the use of short-term work visas in the agricultural industry is another example of how he's out of touch with the needs of his Qld electorate.

    Edit to add: my position on Anning is that in the main, he has a huge amount of supporters who are simply racist/bigoted.
     
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    send more big eggs in trucks loads, to bury him
     
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    FA had some good policies. Stuff the lot of you that are bagging him. FA could have been the best PM Australia never had!
     
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    The Australian: "Fraser Anning files for bankruptcy"
    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...y/news-story/e57da8bf09a20dec623fba0a4ec17cea

    Bankrupt deadbeat hiding from his creditors.

    If he is ordered to appear before court but fails to do so, he'll become a fugitive 'on the lam'.
     
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    He really is a grub. Hanson has dredged up some sorry cases in her time.
     

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