Fake Lunar 2 Proof Mouse?

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  1. mmissinglink

    mmissinglink Active Member

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    I just purchased my first Perth Mint 2008 Proof silver Mouse coin from a seller on eBay. I own a few pieces of the bullion version of this coin.

    Upon first observing the proof coin when it arrived, I immediately noticed how flat and almost featureless looking the Queen's effigy looks. On the bullion coins, the features on the effigy look, how do you say....normal like 3 dimensional. But on the new proof coin, the features look quite flat.

    So I tested with a magnet: not magnetic.
    I weighed it with a sensitive scale: 31.9 grams
    I measured the diameter: about 45mm or so (it's hard to know where the exact centerline of a coin is)
    I tried measuring the thickness: looks to be about 3mm or so....maybe very slightly thicker.

    Based on this description and the picture of the coin below, is it likely that this coin is real or fake?

    Thanks for any insight.


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  2. LovingtheSilver

    LovingtheSilver Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Looks legit to me
     
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    1for1 Well-Known Member

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    Looks fake to me.. my 1/2 oz proof mouse defo has more depth.. scary times..
     
  4. mmissinglink

    mmissinglink Active Member

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    Do any of you own or have owned a 1 oz proof? Any pictures you can post to compare, please.

    Thankx.
     
  5. spannermonkey

    spannermonkey Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Here's a Dogy , sorry no pics of the "pigs ass side "

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  6. mmissinglink

    mmissinglink Active Member

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    Thanks spanner but that's no help at all - wrong series and wrong side. Here's what my coin's obverse looks like...seems like a normal relief although since this is my first Lunar S2 proof, I have nothing personally to compare with:

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  7. Kam

    Kam Active Member Silver Stacker

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    Your coin looks good to me, below are photos of a proof S2 Dragon queen side

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  8. mmissinglink

    mmissinglink Active Member

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    Thank you Kam-L!! Good photos.

    Your effigy side does look like mine.

    What threw me off is that the bullion coin effigy appears to have considerably more relief than the proof coin effigy. I don't quite understand that. Is it more or less an optical illusion due to the finish or what is that all about?
     
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    Lunarowl Active Member Silver Stacker

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    I've seen proof dragon with just the outline of the queen, no details at all. I guess you got the bad batch.
     
  10. mmissinglink

    mmissinglink Active Member

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    ^ Maybe you are right....it's a learning experience.
     
  11. bloomst

    bloomst Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    I have a proof mouse if you want to compare. Send me a pm with your email add, and ill send you a photo to compare.
     
  12. bloomst

    bloomst Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Looked loke mine...and i got mine from Bullion Bourse.

    You can sleep tonight :D
     
  13. black5wan

    black5wan Well-Known Member Silver Stacker

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    Are you sure that the net weight is 31.90 grams, not 31.09 grams?
     
  14. mmissinglink

    mmissinglink Active Member

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    yes, I am pretty sure though it was late (and I was quite tired) when I did the weight.
     
  15. motorbikez

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    Oops sorry it was 1oz you are after,here is mine exactly the same as yours.



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